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Date:      Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:51:25 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: building apache from /usr/ports
Message-ID:  <15135.63325.343370.528294@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010607183358.N59617@mail.webmonster.de>
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Karsten W. Rohrbach <karsten@rohrbach.de> types:
> Mike Meyer(mwm@mired.org)@2001.06.06 12:32:02 +0000:
> > Calvin NG <calvinng@brel.com> types:
> > >   Correct me if I m wrong.
> > >   For in-core web server , every copy of server loaded has the perl and/or php
> > >   in it.  For modules, its a shared library, the server is smaller size, and only
> > >   a copy of the module is loaded in memory.
> > 
> > That's all correct. However, it wouldn't surprise me if the server +
> > module is larger than the server with an in-core module. Since there's
> > no reason to have more than one copy of the server loaded - even for a
> > high-load server - there's still only one copy of the module
> > loaded. Since everything shared in the module should also be shared
> > with the in-core version, the total memory usage won't be very
> > different.
> it is, since apache is not multithreaded (1.x). so, on a heavily loaded
> box you got "several" process images in mem, thus more overhead.

But that's also true for a shared library. A heavily loaded server
will have "several" process images in memory, thus the same overhead.

The question is - what part of the shared library version is going to
be shared between processes that isn't also shared if the module is
compiled in-core.  All the code is shared in both cases. Data should
be COW in both cases. What's left?

	<mike
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