From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 05:14:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2921065670 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 05:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EFB8FC12 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 05:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3U5E0TT030292; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:14:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q3U5E0xa030289; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:14:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:14:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lars Engels In-Reply-To: <20120429092435.GZ37811@e-new.0x20.net> Message-ID: References: <20120427203117.GA2055@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20120429092435.GZ37811@e-new.0x20.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:14:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk , Andy Young Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 05:14:07 -0000 > > Mac OSD _is_ a UNIX: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4376 > So, why not use a UNIX on the Desktop? :) > as well as my VoIP phone gateway software. as well as Mac software it is unix based but NOT meant for it's user to interact with unix commands or even know it is. Just opposite to FreeBSD/amd64. Nothing wrong to use FreeBSD (because of zero-restriction BSD licence) this way and actually used that way often - eg. Juniper routers. But why so many people here want everyone (or at least a lot of ordinary people) to use it willingly, while 99.9% of people will not be able to ever learn any unix? or actually any software except of point and click. No idea.