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linimon@lonesome.com wrote:
> > I think there would be a lot of support for this to happen, but it seems
> > to be lacking in leadership and direction at the moment.
> 
> FreeBSD is not a top-down organization, it is bottom-up.  In terms of
> getting new functionality in, it is not concepts such as "leadership"
> and "direction" that are important, it is "volunteers" and "time" and
> "determination".
> 
> Translation: this won't happen until and unless one or more volunteers
> step up and put their time into it.

Okay I'll rephrase. Somebody did step up, a Video4BSD spec was partially written and is probably still on the web somewhere. There a plenty of people interested in working on this (its probably quite a fun project), but nobody wants to step on anyone else's toes afaict.

Mark