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Subject: Re: 5.4-STABLE corrupting fs on shutdown -p now? 
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> On Mon, 2 May 2005, c0ldbyte wrote:
> 
> >> I have a "HDD Post Write Buffer" in the BIOS according to the MB manual
> >> although the disks aren't connected to the MB controllers they are on RAID 
> >> 5 set off a PCI-X card. Will give it a go tomorrow ( drag the monitor
> >> back to the rack ). Will this have any performance penalties? I could
> >> just avoid using shutdown -p but it seems a bit dodgy what its doing.
> >> If this machine where miles away without remote console it would have
> >> caused major amounts of pain.
> >
> > Why would you use shutdown -p on a remote machine anyway. I could see 
> > possibly a shutdown -r but -p come on.
> 
> I use it regularly -- for remote boxes that are in someone else's 
> facility, I'd much rather I was the one who powered them off and told them 
> when they were ready to unplug than having them do it.  Life is a bit 
> better with the advent of soft power via case power buttons, but still...
> 
> Robert N M Watson

I _always_ use it, specialy when the box in question is headless, or via KVM,
or im too lazy to get up and switch the power off :-)

danny