From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Apr 13 22: 6:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58D137B64C for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:06:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15995; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38F6A743.27B579AE@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:06:11 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Withrow Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , Brandon Fosdick , ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some new ports broken on 4.0REL References: <200004132322.TAA36744@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Withrow wrote: > > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org said: > :- He means: "Did you cvsup ports-base?" > > Answer: no. > > Question: Where does it say that cvsup is the only "authorized" way to > use the ports collection. > Answer: No where. > > Please, all of you, go and read *your* web page. I specifically direct your > attention to this passage: This is a joke, right? You're not honestly berating a group of volunteers by quoting huge passages of the web page at us, are you? > "These are FreeBSD packages; please use pkg_add to install them. > That should enable you to use all the ports listed here." > > That words "should enable you to use all the ports listed here" seems like > pretty plain English, doesn't it? Yes it is, and the word "should" clearly indicates that there are times when you won't be able to. Do you even know what's happening in the ports tree right now? Do you really think that you can just fool around updating bits and pieces and accept no responsibility whatsoever for keeping up to date with what's happening in the system? I realize that you'd like the whole freebsd project to cater to your wants and desires, but that's just not going to happen. We work to improve our online documentation on a continuous basis. If there are specific areas that are unclear to you, we'd like to improve that. But berating the people who will be making the changes won't get you very far. If you don't have time to generate diffs, fine. Make specific, constructive suggestions. Otherwise, quit your whining, we don't have time for it. Doug -- Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. -- W. Somerset Maugham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message