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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:32:02 +0200
From:      Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.org, Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Bus space routines
Message-ID:  <20130618203202.GZ53058@alchemy.franken.de>
In-Reply-To: <20130618175900.GY91021@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <51C0345E.4000309@freebsd.org> <20130618111351.GA43938@alchemy.franken.de> <51C07A2F.3060504@FreeBSD.org> <20130618154511.GY53058@alchemy.franken.de> <20130618175900.GY91021@kib.kiev.ua>

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On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 08:59:00PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 05:45:11PM +0200, Marius Strobl wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 06:18:07PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> > > on 18/06/2013 14:13 Marius Strobl said the following:
> > > > What we really need is a proper interface allowing userland to access
> > > > PCI I/O and memory registers, f. e. via /dev/pci, and for libpciaccess
> > > > to build upon that, i. e. essentially the same as things work on/with
> > > > Linux and /sys/bus/pci/device. As a side-effect this then also permits
> > > > to properly sanity check PCI accesses from userland within the kernel.
> > > 
> > > We have this pciconf utility (in base), which can read PCI config registers (and
> > > more).  Apparently it uses some ioctl interface of /dev/pci.
> > > Is this the interface that you had in mind or does it lack some required capabilities?
> > > 
> > 
> > Currently, that pci(4) userland interface is limited to configuration
> > space only (and libpciaccess indeed already makes use of it for that
> > purpose). What Xorg now additionally requires from such an interface is
> > access to I/O and/or (haven't looked at it in that detail so far) memory
> > registers of PCI devices. Extending /dev/pci to also provide this, thus,
> > certainly is one proper way to go. As a side-note, unfortunately, at
> > least struct pci_conf and pci_match_conf aren't particularly well-thought
> > when it comes to implementing backwards compatibility to previous versions
> > of that interface etc. What we still lack f. e. is support for 32-bit
> > applications using that API on a 64-bit kernel.
> Do we ? It seems there are compat32 shims in dev/pci/pci_user.c.
> 

Err, you're right, head has grown support for that some time ago and
I accidentally used a stable/9 checkout when looking at it today (MFC
after 1 week, eh :)
Still, IMO the structs for such interfaces should be laid out with
compatibility in mind and f. e. not employ u_long as it is the case
here so these shims become as simple as possible if necessary at all.

Marius




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