From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 13:27:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD1C16A404; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from skapet.datadok.no (skapet.datadok.no [194.54.107.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D1B13C46C; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from thingy.bsdly.net ([10.168.103.11] helo=thingy.datadok.no.bsdly.net ident=peter) by skapet.datadok.no with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HZ50e-0003uE-0u; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:54:44 +0200 To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" References: From: peter@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:54:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Andrew Pantyukhin's message of "Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:00:01 +0400") Message-ID: <877issti43.fsf@thingy.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Richard Cooke Subject: Re: |FreeBSD Handbook feedback X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:27:34 -0000 "Andrew Pantyukhin" writes: > To add the info into Handbook might be a good idea, but I > just can't help smiling when I try to imagine how cvsup > working through a dedicated tcp port can cause frustration. The trend in packet filtering is to go for a default deny policy, and we should expect users to find themselves behind filtering gateways (aka firewalls) these days. I haven't actually checked, but it would not surprise me to find that significant chunks of the handbook were originally written when the net was generally open and unfiltered. Mentioning that the program needs a particular port open would quite possibly remove that particular cause of frustration for more cvsup newbies. > /etc/services is your friend. Oh, certainly. But it does not make the original suggestion less valid. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.