From owner-cvs-all Wed Aug 29 5:47:29 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (gw.Awfulhak.org [217.204.245.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A3137B407; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [fec0::1:12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f7TClHA53705; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:47:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f7TClGf75486; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:47:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200108291247.f7TClGf75486@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Joshua Goodall Cc: Brian Somers , Giorgos Keramidas , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, brian@freebsd-services.com, brian@freebsd-services.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.var.dist src/etc/namedb named.conf In-Reply-To: Message from Joshua Goodall of "Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:38:36 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:47:16 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > > > A not-updated configuration file should never become invalid after a > > -stable update, not unless there are exceptional circumstances and > > it's documented in UPDATING. > > ... and the requirement for mergemaster support, to update those > configuration files & file structures. > > Any admin who updates -stable without mergemaster should be skinned alive > and has probably already been burnt on more than one occasion. If we > didn't have that facility, we'd have a lot more legacy configuration > baggage to carry around, and -stable would become -stagnant. The point is that /usr/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf *will* be blindly installed on top of /etc/defaults/rc.conf. People's configuration *will* break because of this. An UPDATING entry *is* required to let people know. I don't believe this is acceptable in -stable. > With my admin hat on, I expect MFC'd new features, not just bugfixes and > security patches in -stable. We have differing opinions. > J -- Brian http://www.freebsd-services.com/ Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message