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Date:      Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:46:05 -0700
From:      grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady)
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: network hangs 
Message-ID:  <19990728004624.D441614D97@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:26:15 -0400 (EDT)  <199907261126.HAA93252@bilver.magicnet.net> 

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I got a response to my question; I thought I'd reply to the list.

> I have a question about this.
> 
> >     dmesg output related to networking: 
> > 
> > 	de0: <Digital 21140A Fast Ethernet> rev 0x22 int a irq 12 on pci0.10.0
> > 	de0: Asanta 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2
> > 	de0: address aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
> > 	de0: enabling 10baseT port
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > 	de1: <Digital 21140A Fast Ethernet> rev 0x22 int a irq 12 on pci0.11.0
> > 	de1: Asanta 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2
> > 	de1: address gg:hh:ii:jj:kk:ll
> > 	de1: enabling 10baseT port
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Shouldn't that be 100baseT?  Or does the kernel not report this.

I'm not sure, but the connection is definitely 100 Mbit, as verified
by a fast transfer of a large file  But meanwhile, we reconfigured the
interface to talk at 10Mbit, but that didn't help.

> It's been so long since I've booted one of my machines I've
> forgotten.

How I envy you...
 
> I know sometimes some switches have a bit of difficulty in this.
> 
> You mentioned it happened on two different BSD system.  The
> question is (and I couldn't tell this from your answer) - was 
> the other BSD system also on this network or was it on a 
> totally unrelated/unconnected network.  If it's the former it might
> not be a BSD problem.

It was this network, but I still think it's likely to be FreeBSD's
fault.  Latest data point: when the communication goes down, other
machines (Win98, Mac) speaking through a hub directly to the DSL line
(as opposed to through the FreeBSD gateway) can still access the
network.  It's just the FreeBSD machine that stops talking to it.

BTW, we are just about out of options.  We have installed 3.2,
but that hasn't helped.  We configured the internal interface to
use 10Mbit instead of 100Mbit, and it seems to make the problems
occur more rarely, but they still happen.  We recompiled if_de.c
with some of the debugging flags turned on, but no messages are
being generated.

Obviously a gateway that need to be rebooted multiple times per day is
not an acceptable situation, so we will probably have to switch away
from FreeBSD.  I hate to switch to Linux, but my guess that if FreeBSD
has this problem, then other BSDs do as well.  Does anyone have any
final suggestions before we give up on FreeBSD for our gateway (what a
sad state of affairs)?

	Steven

"You'd better ask yourself `Do I feel lucky?'
Well, do you, punk?"


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