From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 10:31:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC2D106564A for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Received: from smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (smtp-sofia.digsys.bg [193.68.3.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8EB8FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dcave.digsys.bg (dcave.digsys.bg [192.92.129.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q54AVYbg034434 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:31:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Message-ID: <4FCC8E86.2080901@digsys.bg> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:31:34 +0300 From: Daniel Kalchev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <2421561.4aJcXPZZxh@x220.ovitrap.com> <4FCB38F2.4030505@ateamsystems.com> <3851080.JQJobqxLc8@x220.ovitrap.com> <4FCBCF49.1010206@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4FCBCF49.1010206@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:31:38 -0000 On 03.06.12 23:55, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote: >> yes, you miss a very simple thing. Updated this morning your ports tree. Your client asks for something for Monday morning for which you need now a program which needs some kind of PNG but you did not install it. > ... I spent now two complete days watching my boxes updating their > ports. Several ports do not compile anymore (inkscape, libreoffice, > libxul, to name some of the very hurting ones!). Someone forced you to recompile your ports? :) Just for the record, I too saw a lot of re-compilation necessary because of this PNG library update and for the most part, this was not necessary, but unfortunately this is how the ports dependencies are described by their maintainers - the upgrade tools like portmaster or portupgrade can hardly help much here. Anyway, I am rebuilding on occasions like this just for the fun of it. Always have spare/backup system to work on while my primary desktop rebuilds because it breaks from time to time. By the way, this rebuild didn't give my lowly dual-core core2 6300 at 1.86 GHz much trouble. In any case, suppose a customer comes and asks for an application that uses PNG, you just updated your ports tree and then you either: 1. Have already libpng installed. Then you just don't rebuild libpng, just install the new software. You do this by going to the ports directory like /usr/ports/cathegory/greatstuff and type "make install". This will use the existing libpng on your system. No trouble. 2. Don't have libpng installed yet. You install the new port any way you like. Since you have no libpng on your system, you have no dependencies to upgrade (and wait). You will end up with the new libpng on your system. No trouble. Applying some common sense to these situations helps great deal. It also helps to avoid any prejudice towards FreeBSD or whatever OS you end up using in the process. Daniel