Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 12:12:00 +0100 From: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smr inp breaks some jail use cases and panics with i915kms don't switch to the console anymore Message-ID: <20211214121200.b824c6aebbaaa287a21db89c@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: <Ybh6b8ujAnUS6tkn@FreeBSD.org> References: <1db0942e-0e66-4337-ce2f-4e1005107435@FreeBSD.org> <Ybd8d5nzx25w9cAV@FreeBSD.org> <20211213183222.f945b2e730f7c22dbe74681c@bidouilliste.com> <YbhDoEzXYPlC%2Bjjb@FreeBSD.org> <20211214091427.c531cf51b0284d8a1165b9bb@bidouilliste.com> <YbhugNoi%2B4uy8O%2B6@FreeBSD.org> <20211214112707.9bd528d32d6b8e3f2e3c62fe@bidouilliste.com> <Ybh6b8ujAnUS6tkn@FreeBSD.org>
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:05:19 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 11:27:07AM +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:14:24 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > ... > > > I know that I had problemless desktop some 10-5 years ago, okayish > > > desktop ~three years ago, tolerable experience with 4.16.x DRM bits > > > and shitty one with current 5.4.x (FWIW, 5.x had been problematic > > > for me since the beginning, but previously it was fairly easy to > > > build drm-fbsd12.0-kmod on -CURRENT to avoid regressions, now the > > > source bases had divered too far enough; it's probably still possible > > > to patch, but would take longer time). > > > > Any PR open for your issues? > > At first I was going to say something about such PRs would be closed > as overcome by events anyways, but I like the change of your tone, so > I won't. :) All those PR that I closed were old and mostly unrelevant anymore. > I've just ordered a Full HD IPS screen for my laptop so I could play > modern (well, relatively modern) games, thus I expect I'd be sticking > my hands into X11 stack deeper. I'll collect my notes and stories in > a submittable shape and file them. > > > Well this telegram chat is still a community one, I don't see how it > > makes a difference. > > Well, it'a a group of actual FreeBSD users vs. Twitter where random > people who probably don't even use FreeBSD could see the poll and would > gladly click on preloaded correct answer. Still doesn't change the fact that not a lot of people are there. And we're back to my point back then during the bikesched, we do not have a good and reliable way to do poll for FreeBSD users. > > Also I can't see the poll result. > > Hmm, indeed, it does not display results even when viewed via browser, > that is, unlogged. OTOH you should really try Telegram, there's nothing > better right now on the market. > > ./danfe > I manage to see it (and even vote :P) via my phone, I don't use (nor want to) telegram on my desktops. -- Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@FreeBSD.org>
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