From owner-freebsd-net Wed Nov 29 11:57:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from nu.nu.cuk.nu (node.050.lc.link.si [212.30.95.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8AC37B401 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nu.cuk.nu (cuk.localnet [192.168.6.11]) by nu.nu.cuk.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36A91AB65 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:58:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3A255FAC.75400D44@nu.cuk.nu> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:57:32 +0100 From: Marko Cuk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Protocol over Ethernet References: <3A142E0C.1B1D18DD@fokus.gmd.de> <3A14701F.4CF92AFB@elischer.org> <3A25345D.FD3649CC@fokus.gmd.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms469E0EEB54E4B9A9F4A7A94F" Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms469E0EEB54E4B9A9F4A7A94F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm...good, but I'm interested in sometging similar.... I have some experiences with hamradio AX.25 protocols...but it's slow. Check http://www.hamradio.si/hid.html You have interesting idea on sync stations, but you think, that it will work ? How can I put two Lucent IEEE 802.11 cards into one BSD box and make them like one interface, to double speed of 11Mbit/s ?? Actual spped through one wireless link is about 500KBytes/s what is around half speed of 10mbit ethernet. So, how can i achieve it , full 10Mbit speed with two wireless cards in one maschine ? Or, how to "merge" two 100Mbit ethernets to achieve 200Mbit/s ?? Tnx, Cuk Falco Krepel wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I want to implement my own protocol on top of ethernet. This protocol > > > should should not influence other protocols running on the system. So I > > > must distinguish my own frames from other frames. > > > > > > If I understood it right, three approaches exists: > > > > > > 1. I creat with netgraph a hook over ther ethernet interface. With this > > > solution I am not shure how much overhead this adds because it could be > > > possible that this runs into timing problems. > > > > > > > There will be no more timing load that any other scheme you can think > > of. > > Netgraph is very efficient. > > > > it would help a bit if you gave more specific information as to the > > characterisitics of the protocol you want. > > OK, I give you a short description about my project. The goal is to > realize a wireless link simulation over ethernet. This is done by using > 100MBit/s full duplex point to point links between the terminal and the > simulation box (PC). The box contains a four port ethernet card, so it > is possible to connect four terminals. > > Each packet receiving on one port must be forwarded to at least one > other port. Between receive and send some bit level modifications are > done depending on a channel error model. > > My idea was to encapsulate the wireless link frames in ethernet frames > to reduce any further overhead. A timer give an indication for each > frame. To synchronize the stations I will use the NTP protocol running > over an extra ethernet card. > > So I receive my ethernet frames, do some modifications and send them > out. I think netgraph is the best way to do this because it is possible > to implement the protocol in user space and no kernel modifications are > required. I create a hook on each ethernet port and get the ethernet > frames and send them out through the hooks. Is it right that I get the > raw ethernet frames through this hooks and is it possible to set a > filter for special frames? > > > > Now my questions: > > > > > > - Does exist an implementation which could help me to find the solution? > > > - Has anybody experience with such an implementation? > > > > > > > many people have done this.. > > Great. It is possible that anybody share his implementation? This will > be very helpful for me. Also links to implementations or implementation > examples are useful for me. > > -- > Falco Krepel Phone: +49-(0)30 - 34 63 - 7 276 > GMD-FOKUS Fax: +49-(0)30 - 34 63 - 8 276 > Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 31 e-mail: krepel@fokus.gmd.de > 10589 Berlin WWW: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/krepel > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message --------------ms469E0EEB54E4B9A9F4A7A94F Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIILRwYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIILODCCCzQCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC CUkwggJWMIIBv6ADAgECAgsBAAAAAADi6OMbGjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADBdMQswCQYDVQQG EwJCRTEZMBcGA1UEChMQR2xvYmFsU2lnbiBudi1zYTETMBEGA1UECxMKQ2xhc3MgMSBDQTEe MBwGA1UEAxMVR2xvYmFsU2lnbiBDbGFzcyAxIENBMB4XDTAwMTExODE3NTAwNloXDTAwMTIx OTE3NTAwNlowNjEWMBQGA1UEAxQNY3VrQG51LmN1ay5udTEcMBoGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYNY3Vr QG51LmN1ay5udTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAuIuBAERjucydC5Dh3ubP ROY/sx0YtaiO0r6/6xJHfDlp7iJ6xpdj2PCK/MflRL2iUzQNODn8ng7hsa7+h8eURs7cXZIq rzOJK6Gzn57ij0hWAfv7+JFXl6EpxiadzeK9yW8sHUCiIn/3SpRmGqXtBDDfs1wmX67fzRQH 6bfAcv0CAwEAAaNDMEEwEQYJYIZIAYb4QgEBBAQDAgWgMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIE8DAfBgNVHSME GDAWgBQO3PC7Ejzd+mCnjycKm6cufnNpmjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQIQ/OPaTYl3kAPP tJ33aHsVW91+3JiFc72B5ObZFSewd/UXTxSpVfG14SnTYhkUKuiF7ZQMF+ZlQW/jsi/uoxHx 9t5gSzum946riO+C+meKCvukspxXCswYGm45G98/5iqEX+FLU0Y3o8wwq6yLyCVMZ5LUO2Wm 68ATDWEKUM2IrDCCAzswggIjoAMCAQICCwIAAAAAANZ4ujryMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMG0x CzAJBgNVBAYTAkJFMRkwFwYDVQQKExBHbG9iYWxTaWduIG52LXNhMRswGQYDVQQLExJQcmlt YXJ5IENsYXNzIDEgQ0ExJjAkBgNVBAMTHUdsb2JhbFNpZ24gUHJpbWFyeSBDbGFzcyAxIENB MB4XDTk4MDkxNjEyMDAwMFoXDTA0MDEyODEyMDAwMFowXTELMAkGA1UEBhMCQkUxGTAXBgNV BAoTEEdsb2JhbFNpZ24gbnYtc2ExEzARBgNVBAsTCkNsYXNzIDEgQ0ExHjAcBgNVBAMTFUds b2JhbFNpZ24gQ2xhc3MgMSBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAmjJY7csS PqvryFdmTEK8cIBgADYB7t/9/V7xcuHMqjPYhGIlL+AuKyJiIq+OXl1pRW0NQ6J3a5uaMfHy EAKH4YqBnPmMYrK8ZImHVZZWfCkDtezp9llOzLi9FLEHFl6l1GfQTUmr/1nPx7Kh+2EbmYcw NY8q1a30osItFfv+23kCAwEAAaNwMG4wCwYDVR0PBAQDAgAGMB0GA1UdDgQWBBQO3PC7Ejzd +mCnjycKm6cufnNpmjAfBgNVHSMEGDAWgBT84Gb2WjWZ60Ae0rgeQ7yYjh+KwzARBglghkgB hvhCAQEEBAMCAAcwDAYDVR0TBAUwAwEB/zANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOCAQEAJSGOw9tLJwJO 6BczAJXaTkYeqdcWCpt+H8YA6+z535Vy8ZbeZodRv+VR0vn0WEnwIBYj82jooZzjHuiAPJDv JscCeodgNZ8s5J9OKnJyaV+EY3FoBzFytnnj6+e2LjqQVJo7hGjsohyU3pjHjAwUrbmnBQ2/ TQiFY6827nLlNZOKv42LBI6qwOlrqhfZVhs1yGReZAT9sUI89/TDLcfn5WqALpQ6b9NYaWsD YReIp8l6/wCAooLeOj6eq4fgVk6BhbNpxYYW6Yk/uIQ3dKgwS6mbmDet1ksx6gx+z9RdvB6e RBy2CwAfZy6acD9872USMbSnpMtdWyeaAed5n10o4jCCA6wwggKUoAMCAQICCwIAAAAAANZ4 uDfPMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMFcxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkJFMRkwFwYDVQQKExBHbG9iYWxTaWdu IG52LXNhMRAwDgYDVQQLEwdSb290IENBMRswGQYDVQQDExJHbG9iYWxTaWduIFJvb3QgQ0Ew HhcNOTgwOTE1MTIwMDAwWhcNMDkwMTI4MTIwMDAwWjBtMQswCQYDVQQGEwJCRTEZMBcGA1UE ChMQR2xvYmFsU2lnbiBudi1zYTEbMBkGA1UECxMSUHJpbWFyeSBDbGFzcyAxIENBMSYwJAYD VQQDEx1HbG9iYWxTaWduIFByaW1hcnkgQ2xhc3MgMSBDQTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD ggEPADCCAQoCggEBAL0gNUfRKNYIoxI5I0cNvXAhUg5XMZWmNFdr7H5DecMGUkjNvLWhmb3Y HzK8z9ducm0udyKQgk5Lj5oMAUKa2XBZtp0f5mPRDK0dTviFgfmu75+mUmFEeRp1ReBhVkVt Qow9csumpBK3mvXWYNBgULOOpqbstPQSzX+ozu+z4YUw/nLE5ud3s55YQdZRg4gHxrZpTzbe 0QtIP73WnyF0ZG8nBj5L/Q6mm7+kSFeMkO6JGAsCgRi+Z/5TYIgnuqNzNEtaVrTecwXtmJZd 7ErnQPxLCWLr0OMxT4XReqtZZyv7iA/rqoO9Nf1hJ+xmDkJX92nCDO/8asJuSdqPQTiuSKkC AwEAAaNjMGEwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQDAgAGMB0GA1UdDgQWBBT84Gb2WjWZ60Ae0rgeQ7yYjh+K wzAfBgNVHSMEGDAWgBRge2YaRQ2XyolQL30EzTSo//z9SzAPBgNVHRMBAf8EBTADAQH/MA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4IBAQCbowhEzvKQnXHzMrMFarXqzymY3lU+oBZ9BnpE1q/S+hNYjPgc x6sdtBvvaWiYXAg5j+D3+0jMIee4M9sFqjQkbErl6Xtg3oOzHwq+QXX8zDBIt8EmHQQzqrZ4 7SrLulaXMm73MZUuRvIU7ifH92KJuVxa0ziKZPU3tPGzNHLV1SE9S9d4k9cxZjUeo9hHSW8c reGAf/iYJGxzrA7CGncCoyYHt8drXbyC1SpIHWPPUDKm+xwYRxUKWwxcOCSaBJioCEhffDSH Y6stjUwAd5Qbdrr1FhijFa8vlPYpAHbBFRfT6TdNdtTLSylZJKzaSqDqY95fVLH689FFy8Vk tHMhMYIBxjCCAcICAQEwbDBdMQswCQYDVQQGEwJCRTEZMBcGA1UEChMQR2xvYmFsU2lnbiBu di1zYTETMBEGA1UECxMKQ2xhc3MgMSBDQTEeMBwGA1UEAxMVR2xvYmFsU2lnbiBDbGFzcyAx IENBAgsBAAAAAADi6OMbGjAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIGxMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0B BwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTAwMTEyOTE5NTczMlowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFCNNw5Ur 0BFBtNEWLb0o+ttBnG1jMFIGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFFMEMwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcN AwICAgCAMAcGBSsOAwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUABIGAs1asy7VqyZOW9Qq/zwXeBkyQ0SpXsXWb/DEawHfIngfWRJBL2N/Q3wx7Dh3r 8MvFVvsYzBhK51bawmc5blTIM+YQvf98MbzwuGgUEKgRuVNSI97JGAs/yivNCfg7mxC/aGBf wqUxAwm65cziebYNn6NLuTRYLrF1Gr48RPhTAqo= --------------ms469E0EEB54E4B9A9F4A7A94F-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message