Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 10:12:16 -0400 From: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> To: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture Message-ID: <CAGBxaXntGMioFkp3xqq9CWSBA_vh=rNcJE5zZEkGafRA4N5kTQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4bc4b613-50a7-4890-61e8-5ed5037b07dc@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <3f1496d1f598c84b3871b630f161256e152aca75.camel@tom.com> <CAGBxaXmvde89R%2BREcup9PEV6SAzQAitwHn9og92uz51GYpu%2B%2BQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAEJNuHwewpssL-t49D9pLYWNqYqwAzx4bE2eQdtow05=E9UY5Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaXmvaNtiFZiza_fGrHzWAcMp64d_NWstwvvVvQ959oGWHQ@mail.gmail.com> <681077991.2278153.1587146552233@mail.yahoo.com> <CAGBxaXkMQf9Gs2bujJZjR0Gcv3nyig_FgcGc8m8282fB8_e_Xg@mail.gmail.com> <20200417213025.16ba5877.freebsd@edvax.de> <1659102270.119843446.1587168373188.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <CAGBxaXnNMchVfrVXDkNyBuO0YiQ2%2BJm0cefu6A80YgroPTnwLQ@mail.gmail.com> <20200418092801.20d10f5b@archlinux> <CAGBxaX=4=yx-xSo0gdsVgAoA7fUn8oRq3173covquHNw61kBJQ@mail.gmail.com> <4bc4b613-50a7-4890-61e8-5ed5037b07dc@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:01 AM Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > > On 4/18/20 8:31 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 3:28 AM Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions < > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:50:09 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > >>> And here goes the *ABSOLUTE* reason why no developer who ever hopes to > >>> make any money at all from their work should *EVER* use GPL. > >> > >> You were already proven wrong! Let alone that you are defeated by a > >> naive miscalculation. > >> > > > > Every so called attempt to prove me wrong proved to be strawmen so please > > explain again the proof in a way that is not easy to show has at least > one > > or more wholes in it. > > > > Business models based on secret recipes don't grant to earn money. Even > >> without "reverse engineering"/" disassembling" the idea could be > >> taken over. > >> > > > > Nor do business models that force you to make every last trade secret > free > > for anyone to use. I don't know if your American or not but in the US > the > > Constitution specifically protects the ability to keep exclusive rights > to > > your work for a reasonable amount of time: "To promote the progress of > > science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and > > inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and > > discoveries." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 8) > > > > Thus I suspect if push came to shove in a legal fight about the legality > of > > GPL forcing third parties that just happen to use a GPL'ed project > > Nope. GPL is not forcing anyone. GPL is just binding contract. You agree > to obey GPL requirements it and before you use GPL licensed code. If you > don't agree, don't use GPL licensed code. That simple. Get yourself a > bit of legal understanding, even on the layman level will do, before > starting to talk legalese. > I thought it was self evident that my comments only applied if you where using GPL'ed stuff. And no GPL is not a binding contract because it fails the "consideration" test of what constitutes a contract (i.e. no money traded hands and thus no contract was formed... the user gave no consideration). See https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contract ("The basic elements required for the agreement to be a legally enforceable contract are: mutual assent, expressed by a valid offer and acceptance; adequate consideration; capacity; and legality" ) -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
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