From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 20 10:14:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DAF16A41F for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:14:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58F543D46 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:14:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jAKAH4b60439; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Simon Josefsson" , Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:14:03 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Proposed license for IETF Contributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:14:20 -0000 Hi Simon, You might check this but I believe that the Copyright convention specifically excepts "specifications" from copyright coverage. I think there's some other classes of original work that fall under this. How about simply rewriting the ITEF license to designate any RFC as the complete RFC is a specification, and therefore uncopyrightable. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Simon Josefsson >Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:28 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Proposed license for IETF Contributions > > >Hi all. I noticed the following in the release notes for 6.0: > > The following manual pages, which were derived from RFCs and > possibly violate the IETF's copyrights, have been replaced: > gai_strerror(3), getaddrinfo(3), getnameinfo(3), inet6_opt_init(3), > inet6_option_space(3), inet6_rth_space(3), inet6_rthdr_space(3), > icmp6(4), and ip6(4). [MERGED] > >I'm working on a proposed update for the copying conditions (i.e., the >copyright license) used on IETF Contributions. One goal is to make >the license more aligned with open source and free software >requirements. More background at . > >I'd like the FreeBSD community input on a whether a my proposed >license would have avoided the above situation, and similar situations >in the future. > >The issue is whether the RFC 3978 license permit using RFC excerpts in >source code or documentation (man pages in your case) that is licensed >under a free software license. I believe RFC 3978 do not permit this, >and judging from your release notes, it seems you share that view. > >Anyway. Here is my proposed license: > > c. The Contributor grants third parties the irrevocable > right to copy, use and distribute the Contribution, with > or without modification, in any medium, without royalty, > provided that redistributed modified works do not contain > misleading author or version information. This > specifically imply, for instance, that redistributed > modified works must remove any references to endorsement > by the IETF, IESG, IANA, IAB, ISOC, RFC Editor, and > similar organizations and remove any claims of status as > Internet Standard, e.g., by removing the RFC boilerplate. > The IETF requests that any citation or excerpt of > unmodified text reference the RFC or other document from > which the text is derived. > >Comments? Suggestions? > >RFC excerpts are sometimes used in source code too, so the above >scenario with the man pages may not be a isolated accident. I looked >at Apache, Samba, OpenSSL and some other packages, and they all cite >RFCs in various places. That usage may also be problematic, but I'm >not sure. > >Thanks, >Simon >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: >11/18/2005 >