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Date:      Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:11:06 +0800
From:      Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Fwd: is this FreeBSD problem or HP switch
Message-ID:  <F3AB6786-920B-4E63-9268-37F097974BC2@gmail.com>
References:  <7E97376C-7FCC-46E9-9626-A9D260B01793@gmail.com>

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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: is this FreeBSD problem or HP switch
> Date: October 14, 2022 at 10:08:13 AM GMT+8
> To: Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com <mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 10/13/22 17:48, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> i have HP-2530-24G switch in home and 3 VLANs.
>>> there was no traffic on 2 of them, one vlan have full bandwitch traffic from computer A to computer B - at 1000Mbit/s
>>> At this time ping from computer C to computer A (computer C have 100Mbit/s card) was random between 1 and 1000ms.
>>> Just limiting artifically speed to 950Mbit/s solved the problem.
>>> Is this because switch behaves that way or can it be a FreeBSD problem (all computers runs FreeBSD)
>> 
>> I saw an issue some years ago where one of my FreeBSD servers was overwhelming a Cisco switch while pushing files out to HTCondor nodes, causing it to drop packets.  Our networks guru confirmed the problem by monitoring the switch.  Since no handshaking was possible, I worked around it by throttling the interface on the FreeBSD box, using ipfw if I recall correctly.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Life is a game.  Play hard.  Play fair.  Have fun.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Modern x86 hardware can easily saturate Gigabit network. Probably it is not the issue of the box, or the OS ( FreeBSD in the context ).
> There's an old post about ICMP packet drops on the HPE community, https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333 <https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333>; . Although I can not conclude it is the problem of switch, but you can try connection the two FreeBSD box directly with crossover ethernet cable and repeat the test.
> 
> Also the statistics reported by switch / OS are extremely useful in production ( when excluding some suspicious objects is not an option ).
> 
> Best regards,
> Zhenlei


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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Sorry for missing CC<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Zhenlei Huang &lt;<a href="mailto:zlei.huang@gmail.com" class="">zlei.huang@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: is this FreeBSD problem or HP switch</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">October 14, 2022 at 10:08:13 AM GMT+8<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Jason Bacon &lt;<a href="mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com" class="">bacon4000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 14, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Jason Bacon &lt;<a href="mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com" class="">bacon4000@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 10/13/22 17:48, Wojciech Puchar wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">i have HP-2530-24G switch in home and 3 VLANs.<br class="">there was no traffic on 2 of them, one vlan have full bandwitch traffic from computer A to computer B - at 1000Mbit/s<br class="">At this time ping from computer C to computer A (computer C have 100Mbit/s card) was random between 1 and 1000ms.<br class="">Just limiting artifically speed to 950Mbit/s solved the problem.<br class="">Is this because switch behaves that way or can it be a FreeBSD problem (all computers runs FreeBSD)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I saw an issue some years ago where one of my FreeBSD servers was overwhelming a Cisco switch while pushing files out to HTCondor nodes, causing it to drop packets. &nbsp;Our networks guru confirmed the problem by monitoring the switch. &nbsp;Since no handshaking was possible, I worked around it by throttling the interface on the FreeBSD box, using ipfw if I recall correctly.<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Life is a game. &nbsp;Play hard. &nbsp;Play fair. &nbsp;Have fun.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Modern x86 hardware can easily saturate Gigabit network. Probably it is not the issue of the box, or the OS ( FreeBSD in the context ).</div><div class="">There's an old post about ICMP packet drops on the HPE community,&nbsp;<a href="https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333" class="">https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333</a>&nbsp;. Although I can not conclude it is the problem of switch, but you can try connection the two FreeBSD box directly with crossover ethernet cable and repeat the test.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also the statistics reported by switch / OS are extremely useful in production ( when excluding some suspicious objects is not an option ).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class="">Zhenlei</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>

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