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Date:      Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:11:06 +0800
From:      Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Fwd: is this FreeBSD problem or HP switch
Message-ID:  <F3AB6786-920B-4E63-9268-37F097974BC2@gmail.com>
References:  <7E97376C-7FCC-46E9-9626-A9D260B01793@gmail.com>

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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: is this FreeBSD problem or HP switch
> Date: October 14, 2022 at 10:08:13 AM GMT+8
> To: Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com>
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>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com =
<mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> On 10/13/22 17:48, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> i have HP-2530-24G switch in home and 3 VLANs.
>>> there was no traffic on 2 of them, one vlan have full bandwitch =
traffic from computer A to computer B - at 1000Mbit/s
>>> At this time ping from computer C to computer A (computer C have =
100Mbit/s card) was random between 1 and 1000ms.
>>> Just limiting artifically speed to 950Mbit/s solved the problem.
>>> Is this because switch behaves that way or can it be a FreeBSD =
problem (all computers runs FreeBSD)
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>> I saw an issue some years ago where one of my FreeBSD servers was =
overwhelming a Cisco switch while pushing files out to HTCondor nodes, =
causing it to drop packets.  Our networks guru confirmed the problem by =
monitoring the switch.  Since no handshaking was possible, I worked =
around it by throttling the interface on the FreeBSD box, using ipfw if =
I recall correctly.
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>> --=20
>> Life is a game.  Play hard.  Play fair.  Have fun.
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> Modern x86 hardware can easily saturate Gigabit network. Probably it =
is not the issue of the box, or the OS ( FreeBSD in the context ).
> There's an old post about ICMP packet drops on the HPE community, =
https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-p=
acket-lost/td-p/6347333 =
<https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-2530-icmp-=
packet-lost/td-p/6347333> . Although I can not conclude it is the =
problem of switch, but you can try connection the two FreeBSD box =
directly with crossover ethernet cable and repeat the test.
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> Also the statistics reported by switch / OS are extremely useful in =
production ( when excluding some suspicious objects is not an option ).
>=20
> Best regards,
> Zhenlei


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Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Zhenlei Huang &lt;<a =
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</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Re: is this =
FreeBSD problem or HP switch</b><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
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color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Date: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">October 14, 2022 at 10:08:13 AM =
GMT+8<br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Jason Bacon &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">bacon4000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct =
14, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Jason Bacon &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com" class=3D"">bacon4000@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 10/13/22 17:48, Wojciech Puchar wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">i have HP-2530-24G =
switch in home and 3 VLANs.<br class=3D"">there was no traffic on 2 of =
them, one vlan have full bandwitch traffic from computer A to computer B =
- at 1000Mbit/s<br class=3D"">At this time ping from computer C to =
computer A (computer C have 100Mbit/s card) was random between 1 and =
1000ms.<br class=3D"">Just limiting artifically speed to 950Mbit/s =
solved the problem.<br class=3D"">Is this because switch behaves that =
way or can it be a FreeBSD problem (all computers runs FreeBSD)<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I saw an issue some years ago =
where one of my FreeBSD servers was overwhelming a Cisco switch while =
pushing files out to HTCondor nodes, causing it to drop packets. =
&nbsp;Our networks guru confirmed the problem by monitoring the switch. =
&nbsp;Since no handshaking was possible, I worked around it by =
throttling the interface on the FreeBSD box, using ipfw if I recall =
correctly.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-- <br class=3D"">Life is a =
game. &nbsp;Play hard. &nbsp;Play fair. &nbsp;Have fun.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Modern x86 hardware can =
easily saturate Gigabit network. Probably it is not the issue of the =
box, or the OS ( FreeBSD in the context ).</div><div class=3D"">There's =
an old post about ICMP packet drops on the HPE community,&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-253=
0-icmp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333" =
class=3D"">https://community.hpe.com/t5/aruba-provision-based/hp-procuvre-=
2530-icmp-packet-lost/td-p/6347333</a>&nbsp;. Although I can not =
conclude it is the problem of switch, but you can try connection the two =
FreeBSD box directly with crossover ethernet cable and repeat the =
test.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Also the =
statistics reported by switch / OS are extremely useful in production ( =
when excluding some suspicious objects is not an option ).</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best regards,</div><div =
class=3D"">Zhenlei</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></body></html>=

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