From owner-freebsd-java Tue Oct 29 20:50:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F40537B401 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgr2.xmission.com (mgr2.xmission.com [198.60.22.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6963543E6E for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from mail by mgr2.xmission.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.35 #1) id 186knh-0006kk-02 for java@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:49:53 -0700 Received: from [207.135.128.145] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr2.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 186km8-0005wU-02; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:48:17 -0700 Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9U4mCN31001; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:18:12 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:18:12 +1030 From: Greg Lewis To: Nate Williams Cc: Mikhail Kruk , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wake up call for Sun? Message-ID: <20021030151812.A30986@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20021030142457.A30528@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <15807.23103.607937.532250@emerger.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15807.23103.607937.532250@emerger.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 09:04:15PM -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.5 required=8.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 09:04:15PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > I read the same thing, but I wasn't quite sure what he was driving at. > > As I recall the slide mentioned something about threading problems. > > So, either they were using the Linux version and HotSpot was crashing > > or they wanted to use the native version on an SMP box and use some sort > > of kernel threading so it would use all of the processors. > > For scalability purposes, they would need 'native' FreeBSD threads. The > linux thread stuff works, but doesn't scale more. True. I note that there is now a KSE based pthreads library in -CURRENT. This will eventually become the target for the JDK, which will hopefully address a lot of issues in this regard. > Plus, the person who was pushing the effort was a big PHP fan, so there > was little liklihood Java would have been chosen. I'm actually a pretty big fan of PHP for web based stuff myself :). It has several problems, but I find it very good for what it was designed to do. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message