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Date:      Wed, 20 Aug 2014 05:05:16 +0000
From:      "Dautenhahn, Nathan Daniel" <dautenh1@illinois.edu>
To:        Tim Kientzle <tim@kientzle.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: stopped processes using cpu?
Message-ID:  <118A3B64-21C0-4FB9-84AD-837C037AAFD3@illinois.edu>
In-Reply-To: <10AEB4BC-B1B3-4312-A36C-ECE33EC56805@kientzle.com>
References:  <CAA3ZYrAzpxpFNST5ZT-zHvk4Gg38w-yH1dTQj53Fp_rM-hohaA@mail.gmail.com> <53F3A564.8070202@freebsd.org>, <10AEB4BC-B1B3-4312-A36C-ECE33EC56805@kientzle.com>

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> On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:15 PM, "Tim Kientzle" <tim@kientzle.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-08-19 15:21, Dieter BSD wrote:
>>> 8.2 on amd64
>>> Top(1) with no arguments reports that some firefox processes are using cpu
>>> dispite being stopped (via kill -stop pid) for at least several hours.
>>> Adding -C doesn't change the numbers.  Ps(1) reports the same.
>>> Interestingly, a firefox that isn't stopped is (correctly?) reported as
>>> using 0 cpu.  The 100% idle should be correct, but who knows.
>>> 
>>> last pid: 51932;  load averages:  0.07, 0.99, 1.42 up 14+19:02:56  08:48:28
>>> 267 processes: 1 running, 138 sleeping, 128 stopped
>>> CPU:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.0% interrupt,  100% idle
>>> Mem: 1665M Active, 653M Inact, 240M Wired, 95M Cache, 372M Buf, 815M Free
>>> Swap: 8965M Total, 560K Used, 8965M Free
>>> 
>>> PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU COMMAND
>>> 44188 a           9  44    0   303M   187M STOP   113:19 13.43% firefox-bin
>>> 92986 b          11  44    0   164M 62848K STOP     0:18  5.03% firefox-bin
>>> 16507 c          11  44    0   189M 88976K STOP     0:13  0.24% firefox-bin
>>> 2265 root        1  44    0   248M   193M select 625:38  0.00% Xorg
>>> 51271 d          10  44    0   233M   128M ucond   12:12  0.00% firefox-bin
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>> I wonder if jhb@'s new top code solves this. He adjusted the way CPU
>> usage is tracked to be more responsive, and not based on averages
> 
> I wonder if jhb@’s new top code fixes the whacky WCPU values we’ve been seeing on FreeBSD/ARM.  (1713% CPU is a little hard to believe on a single-core board ;-).

It could be a bit of an odd suggestion, and I really have no experience on whether or not the existing code is good or bad, but I wonder of there might be some type of rootkit running on the system? Possibly lying about performance to hide processes?

In the Firefox case, a rootkit could be labeling a malicious process with Firefox to hide the processes existence. 

How long has the system been operating? Is it possible for that to be happening in this case? 

::Nathan::

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> Tim
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