From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 2 20:46:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7D9D2B3C7 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 447B89A1 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cum7h-0001Hk-0L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Apr 2017 21:29:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.88 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cum8E-000O62-VC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Apr 2017 20:29:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:28:51 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD long term support (Post 11.0) Message-Id: <20170402212851.89b4db14231a317737ffb4fe@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <59472acf-aa73-f5f1-9be6-abd771b3289b@ifdnrg.com> References: <59472acf-aa73-f5f1-9be6-abd771b3289b@ifdnrg.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 20:46:04 -0000 On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:34:41 +0100 Paul Macdonald wrote: > > Am i correct in thinking that for long term support its now more > advisable to install STABLE as opposed to RELEASE builds? > > i.e From: https://www.freebsd.org/security/ I'd say release builds are still the best option for production but you should plan on upgrading to the next point release within three months of it becoming possible. Stable is still a development branch. > "Under the new support model, each major version's stable branch is > explicitly supported for 5 years, while each individual point release is > only supported for three months after the next point release." That makes me wonder what happens to the last point release to a major version, presumably support lasts until five years after the .0 release. > We've traditionally always installed REL builds, but for example all our > 11.0-REL installs look to be EOL'd within 2 months > > /*WARNING: FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p8 is approaching its End-of-Life date.*// > //It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within > the next 2 months.// That seems wrong, 11.1 is not out yet so the three months shouldn't have started counting. > Additionally is there still no way to switch from STABLE->REL, or > REL->STABLE via freebsd-update? I wouldn't expect there to be one, STABLE is a moving target with frequent commits. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith