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( [70.21.165.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q34sm31273679wrq.11.2008.01.07.18.17.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:17:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: Johannes Dieterich In-Reply-To: <542798610801071242y682bdf8br9fc9be5ea258702b@mail.gmail.com> References: <542798610801060556h28d300f2n4fdcf21d83d2213f@mail.gmail.com> <47813D8E.9080603@fsck.ch> <542798610801061326o63f731d5o32bef2eb2624f85e@mail.gmail.com> <20080106222040.GB67243@tirith.brixandersen.dk> <542798610801061458m2a878a9dj2d33065de3642236@mail.gmail.com> <1199667145.899.39.camel@RabbitsDen> <542798610801071242y682bdf8br9fc9be5ea258702b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:16:16 -0500 Message-Id: <1199758576.718.31.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: overheating Thinkpad X60s with 7.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 02:17:35 -0000 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 21:42 +0100, Johannes Dieterich wrote: > Thanks for that reply! :-) > > On 1/7/08, Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko wrote: > > > > > > > > First -- the disclaimer -- mine is X60 (not X60s), but with 1.83GHz > > 32-bit CPU, so it should be somewhat similar to yours. At the moment it > > has USB drivers loaded, which tends to bump CPU utilization and > > temperature. It has UltraBase attached and is sitting on top of the > > aluminum passive cooler pad. > > I guess the two should be rather similar. May I ask what you mean with > "aluminum passive cooler pad"? Is that located underneath your UltraBase? If > yes, does it help? Mine does not get that hot there. Chunk of aluminum with two dead fans inside -- used to be "active cooler pad" when fans were alive ;) I use second HD in the UltraBase every now and again and it gets warm. > > > > > > I does look shade cooler then yours, and fan is running at the lower > > speed. > > An that is what makes me wonder... > > > I will try to list things that I do/have done, and you can compare them > > to your setup: > > -- BIOS is updated to the latest level (I do keep XP partition for this > > specific purpose). > > That is not the case with mine because of the lack of a XP partition. Do you > have any idea whether these FreeDOS BIOS-flash mechanisms are working? On my 42p (work machine), I normally use USB floppy with FreeDOS to flash the BIOS -- IBM^H^H^HLenovo usually distributes two BIOS updates -- you want one marked as the "floppy version". I think if you look through the mail archives, you should be able to find suggestion on making bootable CD, if USB floppy is out of reach. > -- I set low CPU state to C2 in rc.conf > > performance_cx_lowest="C2" # Online CPU idle state > > economy_cx_lowest="C2" # Offline CPU idle state > > Done. Ahem... if "LOW" there does not render your machine unusable, it is even better. > > Concerning the later cpufreq discussion: done that too. So far so good. The > cpufreq module gives > > module_register: module pci/ichss_pci already exists! > Module pci/ichss_pci failed to register: 17 > module_register: module cpu/ichss already exists! > Module cpu/ichss failed to register: 17 > module_register: module cpu/est already exists! > Module cpu/est failed to register: 17 > module_register: module cpu/p4tcc already exists! > Module cpu/p4tcc failed to register: 17 > module_register: module cpu/powernow already exists! > Module cpu/powernow failed to register: 17 > module_register: module cpu/smist already exists! > Module cpu/smist failed to register: 17 I guess, here might be another difference -- I load acpi as the module. If you think it will help, I can mail you my kernel config outside of the list. > > in the booting process. > > Then portupgrade gcc and trying to trace it with dev.acpi_ibm: > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 1443 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 9 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 3450 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 7 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 57 56 -1 54 37 -1 32 -1 > > when it started. Rather healthy although the fan is rather high. > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 1443 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 9 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4081 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 7 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 81 57 -1 79 37 -1 32 -1 > > some ten minutes later. > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 1443 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 9 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4709 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 7 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 87 57 -1 85 37 -1 32 -1 > > > again ten minutes more. > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 1443 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 9 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 0 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4675 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 7 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1 > dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 88 59 -1 86 37 -1 32 -1 Yikes! Can you, please, post results of 'sysctl dev.cpu.0' > > and this some ten/fifteen minutes before overheat. I find it remarkable that > it apparently suddenly goes some almost 40 (!) degrees up. > > So what is left now is a BIOS update, or? Does > http://taint.org/2007/04/23/153737a.html sound doable for anyone? > > Any other ideas? Well, let's cvsup on the close dates (I do it on the regular basis anyway), take my kernel config, build identical kernels, ditch the X completely, remove systems from docks and away from cooling pads, run something CPU-intensive and compare notes. We can do it off-list and post summary in the case of success. For starters, why don't you send me your output of pciconf -lv and /var/run/dmesg.boot along with /boot/loader.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf. You can add you kernel config for the good measure. > > Thanks, > > Johannes > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko