From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Sep 7 8: 7:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from c1030098-a.wtrlo1.ia.home.com (c1030098-a.wtrlo1.ia.home.com [24.14.126.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B6837B422 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mdharnois@localhost) by c1030098-a.wtrlo1.ia.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e87F7EI38792; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:07:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mdharnois@home.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mharnois.workgroup.net: mdharnois set sender to mdharnois@home.com using -f To: "Vladimir Silyaev" Cc: "Brian Beattie" , Subject: Re: vmware2 networking question References: <000501c017a3$b1995ce0$e40ffea9@vt.ny.us> <86lmx6yyzq.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> <000501c0180c$a0431940$e40ffea9@vt.ny.us> <86zolly2a2.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> <000c01c01875$dfca6f00$f5c9aec7@vt.ny.us> <868zt4lxow.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> <001201c018da$efa9e580$f5c9aec7@vt.ny.us> From: Michael Harnois Date: 07 Sep 2000 10:07:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Vladimir Silyaev"'s message of "Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:50:13 -0700" Message-ID: <86em2ws0kj.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Lines: 108 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.2 (Nike) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, but you asked for a situation where vmware does not work with bridging enabled and does work when it's not. This is such a situation, and that *does* have to do with vmware. Furthermore, you can't possibly have an ip address assigned only at one adapter. That negates the entire point of having two ethernet cards, which is, in turn, the point of bridging. Numerous authors on the list have pointed out the problem with your use of bridging, not just me. Just continuing to point the finger elsewhere does the community no good. On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:50:13 -0700, "Vladimir Silyaev" said: > I think that in you case you will be have the same output from > syslog even with nonactive vmnet. And the second point when you > are have a bridging better to have IP address assigned only at > one adapter. But again that problems doesn't have any relation > to VMware. > Regards, Vladimir > ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Harnois > To: Vladimir Silyaev > Cc: Brian Beattie > ; Sent: > Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: Re: vmware2 > networking question >> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:46:45 -0700, "Vladimir Silyaev" > said: >> > Could you describe [hardware] configuration in which vmware > >> guest works without enabled bridiging, and doesn't work at all >> > with enabled bridged. >> >> dc0: flags=8943 >> mtu 1500 inet 24.14.126.45 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast >> 24.14.126.255 ether 00:a0:cc:3d:00:ae media: autoselect >> (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect >> 100baseTX 100baseTX > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none >> dc1: flags=8943 >> mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast >> 192.168.0.255 ether 00:20:78:04:35:83 media: autoselect >> (100baseTX) status: active supported media: autoselect >> 100baseTX 100baseTX > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none >> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet >> 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: >> flags=8010 mtu 1500 faith0: >> flags=8000 mtu 1500 gif0: >> flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif1: >> flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif2: >> flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif3: >> flags=8010 mtu 1280 vmnet1: >> flags=8943 mtu > 1500 >> inet 192.168.254.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.254.255 >> ether 00:bd:4d:05:00:01 >> >> with bridging enabled, the syslog produces multiple entries >> like >> >> -- loop (0) 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop >> (0) 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (1) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc1 from dc0 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc1 from dc0 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (1) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc1 from dc0 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.10.a4.f4.a5.73 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (0) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc0 from dc1 (active) -- loop (1) >> 00.40.d0.0e.75.a2 to dc1 from dc0 (active) >> >> These messages cease with bridging disabled. >> >> > I did a testing with 3COM card with xl driver. It works >> without > any problems. >> >> Then perhaps there is something in your software configuration >> which has not been explained to the rest of us. >> >> -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA >> mdharnois@home.com aa0bt@aa0bt.ampr.org Paranoids are people, >> too; they have their own problems. It's easy to criticize, but >> if everybody hated you, you'd be paranoid too. -- D. J. Hicks > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with > "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA mdharnois@home.com aa0bt@aa0bt.ampr.org When the stomach is satisfied, and lust is spent, man spares a little time for God. -- Will Durant To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message