From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 20:50:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605231B7B0D for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QNmc0Qzvz4VPK for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id b9gpiJFI6gJPjb9gsihTyq; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:06 +0000 Subject: Re: Updating from 11.2 to 11.3 on a headless machine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191130162757.GA9364@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> From: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <50ec5426-3206-4e83-7394-eb9d9da0325c@tx.rr.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 14:50:03 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191130162757.GA9364@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOOQY4lJO4XOtK1dHLKiPlw81E0/kiC2qk93kH0S4cnTKqAOlNn4rId1zWDpgdBWzGsLPhUmHQQ84McyhSCBGEviKhLSZ5Ef2rmTz7Wf5S+Ug5212PQx 7zCATZfPjAhvoyCUwWJWtSUekrMmYuraIT2DRWH/XvGFGYrk7f14TrOKgQUaAYtGvSstvjY0lXB5SUZa557vY723HaInWMvJ8ic= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QNmc0Qzvz4VPK X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.229 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[229.73.14.107.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[82.63.121.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[229.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.92)[ip: (-5.20), ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-2.42), asn: 7843(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:09 -0000 On 11/30/19 10:27 AM, Joe A. wrote: > Hello... > > I have a machine that I moved into a headless with no keyboard > role and now I wish to update it to 11.3 from 11.2-RELEASE-p9. > > Since it's headless, and it seems that FreeBSD update works on > a headless machine, I plan to use it as outlined in the > handbook in chapter 23.2. > > First question: am I correct in understanding that FreeBSD update > will work on an headless machine, as distinct from svnlite and a > build from source? Yes, you are correct. I maintain three servers, and all three are headless. I update them routinely over ssh. The only downside is if the server fails to reboot properly, you have to make a trip to the hosting company site to complete the update. Usually, that does not happen. > In section 23.2.3. Performing Major and Minor Version Upgrades, > this appears: freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade. On my > desktop with a monitor and keyboard, I use snvlite; so when > moving between major and minor upgrades, I use svnlite switch. > > Second question: is it the case that 'freebsd-update -r' > is a substitute for 'snvlite switch'? I've never used snvlite, so I can't say. But freebsd-update works fine for me. -- Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell