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Date:      Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:38:21 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
To:        Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, sbz@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, cross+freebsd@distal.com
Subject:   Re: Quarterly 13.3 amd64 package inconsistency?
Message-ID:  <1583439132.2388.1726076301178@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <dd25d942-29d5-499c-8e43-01276daeff9c@quip.cz>

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Has this py-OpenSSL issue been resolved already?
If not, I can take a look in the near future.=20

Regards,
Ronald.

Van: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
Datum: 24 augustus 2024 23:45
Aan: ports@freebsd.org
CC: cross+freebsd@distal.com
Onderwerp: Re: Quarterly 13.3 amd64 package inconsistency?

>=20
>=20
> On 24/08/2024 19:48, Chris Ross wrote:
>=20
> [..]
>=20
> >>> I haven't tested that software nor confirmed version dependencies. Th=
e ports tree shows the versions in the trees as mentioned but does not have=
 a version requirement checked for dependencies.
> >>
> >> Dependency info referenced above.  Is there perhaps an issue with the
> >> py-openssl port then?
> >=20
> > Coming back to this.  I temporarily switched my pkg config to use lates=
t
> > instead of quarterly, which allowed me to pull in pyopenssl 24.1.0.1
> > and I am now running.  However, I think the problem still exists in
> > quarterly, and should be corrected.
> >=20
> > I=E2=80=99ll drop it if no-one else cares, but it seems a "broken windo=
w=E2=80=9D that
> > should be fixed.
>=20
> We use quarterly packages on all our machines and more and more often I s=
ee that something is broken in quarterly and the fix never makes it from HE=
AD to quarterly, or that a package in quarterly has a security vulnerabilit=
y, the fix is in HEAD but no one merges the security fix into quarterly (e.=
g. Postgres). So increasingly I feel like quarterly serves no purpose excep=
t to freeze for three months, even if it's broken.
> I think if anything is broken in quarterly and the fix is known (in HEAD)=
 it should be MFH. I know it is sometimes complicated because of cross depe=
ndencies, but other cases are simple.
>=20
> Are some rules for MFH to quarterly defined in handbook or somewhere else=
?
>=20
> Kind regards
> Miroslav Lachman
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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<div>Regards,</div><div>Ronald.</div><div><br><p><small><strong>Van:</stron=
g> Miroslav Lachman &lt;000.fbsd@quip.cz&gt;<br><strong>Datum:</strong> 24 =
augustus 2024 23:45<br><strong>Aan:</strong> ports@freebsd.org<br><strong>C=
C:</strong> cross+freebsd@distal.com<br><strong>Onderwerp:</strong> Re: Qua=
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.P -->On 24/08/2024 19:48, Chris Ross wrote:<br>
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[..]<br>
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&gt;&gt;&gt; I haven't tested that software nor confirmed version dependenc=
ies. The ports tree shows the versions in the trees as mentioned but does n=
ot have a version requirement checked for dependencies.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Dependency info referenced above. &nbsp;Is there perhaps an issue =
with the<br>
&gt;&gt; py-openssl port then?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Coming back to this. &nbsp;I temporarily switched my pkg config to use=
 latest<br>
&gt; instead of quarterly, which allowed me to pull in pyopenssl 24.1.0.1<b=
r>
&gt; and I am now running. &nbsp;However, I think the problem still exists =
in<br>
&gt; quarterly, and should be corrected.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I=E2=80=99ll drop it if no-one else cares, but it seems a "broken wind=
ow=E2=80=9D that<br>
&gt; should be fixed.<br>
<br>
We use quarterly packages on all our machines and more and more often I see=
 that something is broken in quarterly and the fix never makes it from HEAD=
 to quarterly, or that a package in quarterly has a security vulnerability,=
 the fix is in HEAD but no one merges the security fix into quarterly (e.g.=
 Postgres). So increasingly I feel like quarterly serves no purpose except =
to freeze for three months, even if it's broken.<br>
I think if anything is broken in quarterly and the fix is known (in HEAD) i=
t should be MFH. I know it is sometimes complicated because of cross depend=
encies, but other cases are simple.<br>
<br>
Are some rules for MFH to quarterly defined in handbook or somewhere else?<=
br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
Miroslav Lachman<br>
<br>
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