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To: Mark Millard , Lexi Winter , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <9332A517-40F0-477C-A30B-D1629E9F18A0.ref@yahoo.com> <9332A517-40F0-477C-A30B-D1629E9F18A0@yahoo.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Colin Percival Autocrypt: addr=cperciva@freebsd.org; keydata= xsFNBGWMSrYBEACdWRqDn3B3SKO7IG0/fGHYtfs26f3Q5QeAcasy1fQLniwGQWn5rlILhbCD K/jdNoDm5Zxq20eqyffoDNObCjnHgg4tGANdi+RmDy+7CDpE789H8dss9y7Pt5DlGGAXQQnt hxush3EYS/Ctprd9UUL/lzOOLOU1aNtzB84tNrJBtcJmL7OYHfyTSNFxvedqJrrasejIQOLI t/DQ89BPzz+vsKHz7FJPXh3fsVkzLA00DJYcfkgxyABfJNA7U6yMwd4DVSdx/SsvfIDMVXnu UXCXswo106WPZbYGlZPpq0wW6iibtTerJix+8AeuwXvl9O1p8yESK4ErkIxCnmghTSz+pdzj z/6xBRkdDM9VdZ0r+CzsaNXMpDOzFuKyjaiYBdgCLljbDnXIHFcqXenrZ7Xwkm09g/M4uVSh pIUG2RYa6tsHSQoGCp3f2RZv1znfViKQFbbL83QjtPA20AhseZSYbHp1FPhXyy9J0wkGL16L e99g6gdGeIRE82BZjBjKGDkoyDPq+oDRSFl8NtzmIKy+cfz00nViqcTF4bREXEawFGhlpO0X O9q8mijI9iFB6zaPBiSdJGBL5ML5qLTNCl8Zlf4m1TBvmRTqF/lzMHVXHidDoUhpSh/y3AFZ 1KrYc27ztJQywDJPJPWPbtY8YhFLFs377gfP8WldsZjzp8nvoQARAQABzSVDb2xpbiBQZXJj aXZhbCA8Y3BlcmNpdmFARnJlZUJTRC5vcmc+wsGRBBMBCAA7FiEEglY7hNBiDtwN+4ZBOJfy 4i5lrT8FAmWMSrYCGwMICwkNCAwHCwMFFQoJCAsFFgMCAQACHgUCF4AACgkQOJfy4i5lrT++ ig/9GZKdN2fHSyrANKZX38ivd7IX2wAYouqH9DrQM94W8IciaDLmarN4Pl9mY+aucMwQUSyp uNtKOJwKqhVVaalF9Zw0sRMH4CJuvT7vKCtZ3q1Okb7soRvFte4d+vXhvPxCvBFDA5JzU7Lg DR5eqqcvF1dN1OuCq16pl0zCOSH/Jr5ToE3LM3Av1KBGcZD7ZSzHRWsFjV5AOUJKySuA3GwJ e/jASQcQ0YfCnru8ntLmYg/2SKvZFlfthZiCBnAppMt4n4BUAw3TDvf10HIDtdneejawcbLS gofLCvGqumwbZYAMKWrFzT4+7KQvr0pOw8QD7EbxnB4f9hQ7UiVF8qWsyKU3iv6b5JLhbS59 ooKRccyOvdMLcVJ0ZdpqoxrNv061ZUqLL5RiWjBlc1qjBnDxeg5oyM0rT8WLftdgvyH6RQt0 KWngumBAT5AT2DUYL8Uz1490cqfO9K4yEGZAJB9XRVX1g2IWTOjae+0g9ZII+h91UngFz+Rz aKDeseKBbCGDOFXx1TqKiHl2g255ZnUxKYTlucFtguv4gDGBgEk4G9JaEWBw1IWblcKhxH7L 2vWsUhvwghjIxHdO/RkeIeHvSp4YZxCJ7a3TaJLYAlwYopfTKVzNhcDY5h5syEuoHjyJCxXK SyoJYAVu8Yl2KUhvOtOmL1VZ6xyHnpdMRWKJZ5jOwU0EZYxKtgEQANYfgbtUMVnhjxDHhWLp g5kLHK3YW0TfJKzpXqDB7NiqxHofn4OcbZnVC3MKggcbs9o1/UtsjnlsG8550PfiYkDXvPiO RJwgbGs6MGIDK797C6cnBLQ8xwBa9SL4cl5iQFnhWmt6vwnJ+an/cm5JpYves3wL7jV09qU9 57hkHXEUcl38r4FssZzVcLKPUVTa3Un+QGRTGDGe/f4ctjMaqv0ZCM+l2ixPhf/vqESrfSLv V/+T3dmtUfXjazO3SABvsHwxgGuTTYOlKoPCaebr+BRdqm0xeIShoIlhvTI8y4clchqx/Uxg UG5X2kvU13k3DS3Q8uLE4Et9x1CcZT6WGgBZSR6R0WfD0SDnzufNnRWJ0dEPA2MtJHE7+85R Vi9j/IgZV+y5Ur+bnPkjDG1s2SVciX5v9HQ0oilcBhvx0j5lGE9hhurD9F+fCvkr4KdbCknE 6Y8ce8pCNBUoB/DqibJivOzTk9K9MGB5x0De5TerIrFiaw3/mQC9nGeO9dtE7wvDJetWeoTq 4BEaCzpufNqbkpOaTQILr4V6Gp7M6v97g83TVAwZntz/q8ptwuKQPZ2JaSFLZn7oWUpYXA5s +SIODFHLn6iMoYpBQskHQjnj4lEPJadl4qj+ZKA89iDAKsniyoFXsbJe2CPbMS1yzBxKZq6K D/jpt7BOnuHr/JrXABEBAAHCwXYEGAEIACAWIQSCVjuE0GIO3A37hkE4l/LiLmWtPwUCZYxK tgIbDAAKCRA4l/LiLmWtP3jmEACQrh9gWe8F1Tkw3m6VoHKwLc5he4tX3WpQa//soPO6iGG3 S3WPruQ46NrAaAojoOcKI9UONDO5rxG0ZTX53S+lu2EO47jbcLwOCjaEpjKpDRt9ZXBQE8Xl mtBE9Bp3W9gpjB1nE3KNM1mJYgsK0QdRpwwfh4pVgGpOj8j23I6MCK+v99zEBnpgCn2GX8W/ kctRXHqWwndHysOJtRP/zrl7dDaABF1f9efUl0LL3TD3GJ9VDz+DNOin/uK2a1hiJo8QzTRk PpfUQ2ebzDsrd1i/pOWkMSkdH+rEu4AGrXWtaBwrMyrGkL6Icb6yO+P9/z0W2wlgBf3P1YRt JPgQt/Dj3yvA/UnaV/QmuVQPjl13o24UnJGsZM8XGnNdfWBKkC1Q6VXC4QT+dyBHYH9MuE9d 6oGl8pFM1+cTfEfbM62/rRoPkF1yHMsI/903VxEvuUIKfhEZAVLFyHldooNxuchntHQP9y8J 8Ou9bWYQP7MnEn+kwSwrZkjurfPkan+xQvp6dDYnj3V0GwA5pprBMaB928VIDVOv+1PNQI3t Cvk5VPv/skq+TJRMHW7bFSt8PRa91cUf1FOLIz9APDiJOzXkwxUEHGV3zPSaUhs1JYjyBeGT wDAvtLUdjOnRhEUOwlnIrztmvyciutjJoVzKEEjj5WXnHk9L9kQ1bpAjkjTONw== In-Reply-To: <9332A517-40F0-477C-A30B-D1629E9F18A0@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9/21/25 18:39, Mark Millard wrote: > https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:i386/base_latest/FreeBSD-src-15.0.a3.20250920235810.pkg > and: > https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:i386/base_latest/FreeBSD-kernel-generic-15.0.a3.20250921111746.pkg > > and the like exist: so there is a pkgbase i386 15.0-ALPHA3 distribution. This is a "nobody got around to turning it off" thing. > Is https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ wrong about i386 for 15.x? No. There won't be release images for i386, there won't be freebsd-update support for i386, and there won't be any more packages build from ports for i386 (I'm not sure if they've been taken off pkg.freebsd.org yet, but the system which was building them is now doing amd64 16.x packages). There's just a lot of things to turn off when a platform is desupported and not all of them happen at once. ;-) -- Colin Percival FreeBSD Release Engineering Lead & EC2 platform maintainer Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid