From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 18:11:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8AE16A423; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:11:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from fileserver.fields.utoronto.ca (fileserver.fields.utoronto.ca [128.100.216.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6491443D55; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:11:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from fields.fields.utoronto.ca (fields.localdomain [192.168.216.11]) by fileserver.fields.utoronto.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Fields 6.0) with ESMTP id j6LIBaNV014102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:11:37 -0400 Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (fields.fields.utoronto.ca [128.100.216.11]) by fields.fields.utoronto.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Fields WS 6.0) with ESMTP id j6LIBZ6P031038; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:11:36 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2F29D512B7; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:11:34 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Eirik ?verby Message-ID: <20050721181134.GA58429@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050721050048.GU22430@xor.obsecurity.org> <00DD4399-4317-4579-82C4-5B64AC3F800B@anduin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00DD4399-4317-4579-82C4-5B64AC3F800B@anduin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, Robert Watson , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Serious issue with serial console in 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:11:53 -0000 --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 10:56:54AM +0200, Eirik ?verby wrote: > >You might have to wait until 6.0-R since fixing it seems to require > >infrastructure changes that cannot easily be backported to 5.x. >=20 > With all due respect - if this is (and I'm assuming it is, because it =20 > happens on all the servers I'm serial-controlling) an omnipresent =20 > problem on 5.x, I daresay it should warrant some more attention. =20 > Having unsafe serial terminal support that can bring down your system =20 > like that defies much of the point of having serial terminal support =20 > in the first place. It *has* received attention, and the conclusion was as above. 6.0 has some significant TTY changes relative to 5.x, which probably cannot be backported without disruption. > However, since I seem to be the only one who has noticed this, =20 > perhaps I'm the last person on earth to routinely use serial terminal =20 > switches instead of KVM switches to do my admin work? No, others have reported it too. Kris --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFC3+VWWry0BWjoQKURAi4eAKDCWBSGkLvoxeIXoJnHgFH1GEh4qwCgnvjz CI0eCLkF5KO3JMRQhiXTF/8= =5gVc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c--