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Date:      Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:11:34 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Eirik ?verby <ltning@anduin.net>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Serious issue with serial console in 5.4
Message-ID:  <20050721181134.GA58429@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <00DD4399-4317-4579-82C4-5B64AC3F800B@anduin.net>
References:  <20050721050048.GU22430@xor.obsecurity.org> <00DD4399-4317-4579-82C4-5B64AC3F800B@anduin.net>

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On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 10:56:54AM +0200, Eirik ?verby wrote:

> >You might have to wait until 6.0-R since fixing it seems to require
> >infrastructure changes that cannot easily be backported to 5.x.
>=20
> With all due respect - if this is (and I'm assuming it is, because it =20
> happens on all the servers I'm serial-controlling) an omnipresent =20
> problem on 5.x, I daresay it should warrant some more attention. =20
> Having unsafe serial terminal support that can bring down your system =20
> like that defies much of the point of having serial terminal support =20
> in the first place.

It *has* received attention, and the conclusion was as above.  6.0 has
some significant TTY changes relative to 5.x, which probably cannot be
backported without disruption.

> However, since I seem to be the only one who has noticed this, =20
> perhaps I'm the last person on earth to routinely use serial terminal =20
> switches instead of KVM switches to do my admin work?

No, others have reported it too.

Kris

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