From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 21 20:42:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2033D16A41F for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:42:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net) Received: from cowbert.2y.net (d46h180.public.uconn.edu [137.99.46.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 502A043D53 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:42:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net) Received: (qmail 49213 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Nov 2005 20:42:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:42:39 -0500 From: "Peter C. Lai" To: Bigby Findrake Message-ID: <20051121204239.GC326@cowbert.2y.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Cc: dtalk-ml@prairienet.org, Peter Jeremy , ray@redshift.com, Danny Carroll , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Jeremie Le Hen , Marian Hettwer Subject: Re: Need urgent help regarding security X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:42:41 -0000 On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 12:35:44PM -0800, Bigby Findrake wrote: > I'd just like to make a small contribution to this discussion. > > While most of us understand the merits and flaws of security through > obscurity, I would like to point out the semantic fact that the phrase is, > indeed, "security *through* obscurity", that while not flawless, obscurity > is another path to security, that it is (more) difficult to attack the > host you cannot see, (more) difficult to exploit the flaw you cannot > detect, (more) difficult to connect to the daemon you do not know is > listening. > You can also couple this with port-knocking (or even just port-knocking on 22). > > > /-------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. > > finger://bigby@ephemeron.org > http://www.ephemeron.org/~bigby/ > news://news.ephemeron.org/alt.lemurs > /-------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Peter C. Lai Dept. of Neurobiology Yale University School of Medicine http://cowbert.2y.net/