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Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso is too big for my 700MB CD-r
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 02:05:32PM -0700, Chris H wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:09:10 +0930 Shane Ambler <FreeBSD@ShaneWare.Biz> wrote
> 
> > On 12/07/2016 06:54, Conrad Meyer wrote:
> > > DVD-R dates to 1997; cheap USB flash devices are now pervasive.  Maybe
> > > it's time to move on from CD.
> > 
> > +1 on dropping CD images. I haven't burnt a CD in over 10 years and I
> > don't believe I have seen a CD only drive in that time. Even with a CD
> > size image I have burnt them to DVD, I first started this because
> > transfer speeds of DVD's are faster and nowadays it costs almost the
> > same to burn a DVD. So I see zero benefit to using CD's and that's
> > before thinking of reusable USB devices.
> > 
> > I do think there is a benefit to keeping the small boot only image
> > available that can be used to start/recover a machine that can then
> > download any data to be installed.
> > 
> > -- 
> > FreeBSD - the place to B...Storing Data
> > 
> > Shane Ambler
> > 
> 
> -1
> There is no *good* reason that FreeBSD can't maintain the CD image.
> I think the *real* question here is; *why* is it now so hard to fit
> it on a CD?

clang main binary now 50MB size (27MB for 10.x) -- on live FS and in base.txz.
11.x now ship lldb (on live FS too) -- 50MB also binary -- on live FS
and in base.txz.
kernel now 26M vs 12M on 10.3.
kernel with modules now 115MB vs 54MB on 10.3
total size of *.a now 50M (vs 48M).

All binaries slightly bigger: usr/bin/ld from 1580008 to 1615912 (+2%).