From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 25 17:03:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA22241 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp20.portal.net.au [202.12.71.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22222 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.smith.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01828; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:31:52 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199708260001.JAA01828@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Chuck Robey cc: hcremean@vt.edu, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Since the MicroSloth(tm) jokes have been flowing... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:06:49 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:31:49 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Agree completely. I'm doing a project for the University of Maryland, > using Borland tools to do a very stripped down 32 bit OS for students. > The most difficult part? Avoiding all the Microsoft hooks in the code, > which means decompiling the obj files and literally plucking out the > Windows calls. So use the Delorie tools. No MS hooks, already a flat 32-bit model, and gosh, you can crossdevelop for it under FreeBSD 8) We did a project a while back where I started on a DOS system with the Delorie tools, moved to OS/2 and emx (still targetting go32), then to FreeBSD, still targetting DOS/go32. At the same time, there were no MS or Borland tools around that could have given us what we needed (a flat 32-bit DOS extended with inbuilt VM). Watcom _might_, but the four-figure pricetag was totally out of the question. (Oh, you get all the source, too 8) mike