From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 8 03:06:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76589B6F2C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 03:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B07DB04 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 03:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=MGbjk6atrnneobtD5Oklxke3RFQQfXtCo3Jr1xY8+10=; b=howeBZk++RGKFt4W1OwXmRYkkz8dxTNZO57IvLw6op7d082ft4euGtkxy9WcJQrLgui3NUSB0eS3TNOX+F1/uNkQ0rs5rvq8HqhXxvp8Ta6hDxjWWzH0EvRlLm4vXQpX+ecm5Y+ZDASUFTfzsi2UNtKY3x52vHAWpDF4eUvOpsY=; Received: from [114.124.4.172] (port=27090 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNuSg-000Kl9-FV; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 21:06:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:06:07 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: 64bit P4 vs mfsBSD Message-ID: <20150808110607.3f290eaa@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <55C3D434.6030005@sneakertech.com> <20150807133752.6dfdc4e7.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 03:06:25 -0000 Hi, this e-mail reminded me of an old machine of mine. It only worked up to FreeBSD 7.x. FreeBSD 8.0 also did not boot as some hardware support was dropped those days. You might be affected by something like this too. The only difference seems that my machine booted but was unusable. Just try to get an old image matching the age of your machine. You can then move slowly into the 'future'. Erich PS My machine was a Pentium class machine, I think not even Pentium II or III. On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:37:52 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:40:04 -0400, Quartz wrote: > > ... except it doesn't work. I tried both 10.0 i386 and 10.1 amd64 > > and both of them hang. 10.1 amd64 gets to the beastie menu, but > > regardless if I select multiboot or single user it gets as far as > > the white-on-blue "Booting..." and then just stops. 10.0 i386 seems > > to die somewhere in stage two before the menu even appears. > > Have you tried - for the sake of an answer - to boot from > an older FreeBSD system? It's quite terrible that I would > make such a suggestion, but P4 is a rather old platform, > so why do you expect it to run a current FreeBSD? Normal > answer: Because old platforms still run current FreeBSD. > But in this case... > > I've been using a P4 machine myself for many years, it has > been running FreeBSD 5 and 7 (i386 versions only) happily. > > So what I would suggest: Download FreeSBIE 1.1. This is > a live file system CD (yes, not a DVD) that can be booted > and doesn't require to be installed. Run "dmesg" and see > what CPU features are listed (right at the top). You can > also run "sysctl -a | grep cpu" to get more information. > > When you have verified what P4 model it is, you can take > the next steps. > > >