From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 18 02:46:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2379A16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 02:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823C343D46 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 02:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) X-Sasl-enc: +cvAVu+ZLeEd5qpPGN8a+A 1084873571 Received: from dialup-4.239.123.46.dial1.philadelphia1.level3.net (dialup-4.239.123.46.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [4.239.123.46]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D438B96BBF; Tue, 18 May 2004 05:46:10 -0400 (EDT) To: "Viktor Lazlo" , "Robert Storey" References: <006801c43bd4$49362fd0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <20040518063855.62e20610.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> <20040517200917.S90477@byx0rm.mr-clevver.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 05:46:08 -0400 From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20040517200917.S90477@byx0rm.mr-clevver.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.50 (Win32, build 3778) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New work on installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:46:17 -0000 On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:14:44 -0700 (PDT), Viktor Lazlo wrote: > On Tue, 18 May 2004, Robert Storey wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:00:37 -0500 >> wrote: >> >> > Has there been any new work on the installer or planned? If not, I >> would like >> > to help... What about graphical? >> >> If you're looking to improve FreeBSD's user-friendliness, more usefual >> than a >> GUI installer would be a few network setup tools. To get some idea what >> I'm >> talking about, take a look at Slackware's "netconfig" and "adsl-setup" >> tools. >> These aren't GUI, just ncurses scripts, but very easy to use. When I >> was a FBSD >> newbie, one of my most frustrating experiences was having to manually >> write and >> modify /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. I think a lot of newbies >> get to >> this point, spend a few frustrating days tearing their hair out, and >> then give >> up and go back to Redhat or SUSE. >> >> A user-friendly GUI or ncurses script for configuring the new PF >> firewall would >> no doubt win a few converts too. Take a look at Guarddog (a Linux tool >> for IP >> tables) to get some idea. > > If you use sysinstall to configure the network it is very similar to > Slackware's netconfig, except that it is faster and easier since it is > all > on once screen and will automatically probe for more information. I've > never used dial-up under FreeBSD but there are ppp options in sysinstall > as well so presumably it will configure that as well for you. For anyone wanting to set up dial-up or a cable modem with FreeBSD, the article at the URL below is simple and direct: It just so happens the same author has just written a new article on FreeBSD networking. I haven't read it yet, but on the basis of her consistently excellent writing I'll recommend it anyway: Jud