Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 12:30:14 +0200 From: Oliver Braun <obraun@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de> To: "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@FreeBSD.ORG>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/rsync Makefile Message-ID: <20020901103014.GA37537@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <20020831231847.GD61943@lizzy.catnook.com> <20020831193211.GA22902@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020827234337.GA79648@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <04d801c25122$4527a840$f800a8c0@dwcjr> <20020831193211.GA22902@dragon.nuxi.com> <04e601c25127$1b88cdc0$f800a8c0@dwcjr> <20020831231847.GD61943@lizzy.catnook.com> <200204261840.g3QIeEJ84330@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020827234337.GA79648@dragon.nuxi.com> <04d801c25122$4527a840$f800a8c0@dwcjr> <20020831193211.GA22902@dragon.nuxi.com> <200204261840.g3QIeEJ84330@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020827234337.GA79648@dragon.nuxi.com>
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* David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> [2002/08/27 16:43 -0700]:
> This commit should be reconsidered -- by making a dependancy on popt,
> rsync went from a port easy to build with zero dependancies to one needin=
g:
> RUN DEPENDS
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> popt
> gettext
> expat
> libiconv
> ADDTIONAL BUILD DEPENDS
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> libtool
No that's not right. rsync went from a port with all these dependencies
to a port with zero dependencies by default, and with all these
dependencies if and only if one defines WITH_POPT_PORT.
* David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org> [2002/08/31 12:32 -0700]:
> > So what do you recommend when rsync does not continue to include its own
> > popt?
> Why do you think that will happen? It still supplies its own libz.
I do not know if you have read the answer from Jos Backus to this. Here
it is (again?):
* Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com> [2002/08/31 16:18 -0700]:
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 02:46:32PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
> > > > So what do you recommend when rsync does not continue to include it=
s own
> > > > popt?
> > >
> > > Why do you think that will happen? It still supplies its own libz.
> There's a good reason for that. The libz that ships with rsync is incompa=
tible
> with zlib 1.1.4 at the data stream level.
> > Because that's what the whole dispute was over in the thread about this=
. I
> > don't recall the thread, so I will wait for obraun to chime in, but he =
may
> > not be back until Monday. It is entirely possible that I am thinking of
> > another port though so I will wait for Oliver to respond before creatin=
g any
> > more spammage. I will forward you the email and thread I am referring =
to
> > shortly.
> I supplied the popt-1.6.4 upgrade patch to rsync, and at the time Wayne
> Davison suggested on rsync@samba.org that popt be removed altogether inst=
ead
> of upgrading it. I tend to agree with this. The bloat issue should be tak=
en up
> with the popt maintainers; perhaps it should be possible to build popt wi=
thout
> the external dependencies for programs that don't need it. Unfortunately =
popt
> seems to be largely unmaintained these days.
To summarize:
rsync had these dependancies for a while, since I thought gettext etc.
will be installed on almost any machine anyway.
With this commit I have reverted this change to let rsync _not_ depend on
all these stuff by default.
But I have left the possibility to make rsync depend on the popt port.
So, I hope this is ok for everyone.
Regards,
Olli
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