From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Mar 24 15:48:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20644 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20637 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA11306; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:17:55 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703242347.KAA11306@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.2.1 - rumours? In-Reply-To: <27971.859224682@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 24, 97 09:31:22 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:17:55 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, dg@root.com, mishania@demos.su, chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > So the answer is - if people like Mishania want to see less frequent > release then they're going to have to work A WHOLE LOT HARDER on > the BETAs and the GAMMAs! We had GAMMA out for a month and hardly > anyone tested it. Maybe if I only gave people an hour before removing > the bits again, they'd be more motivated, but giving them plenty > of time does NOT appear to work at all. :-) Yah. Maybe slightly more accurately; the same people test the GAMMA releases as tested the BETA releases, and the ALPHA releases, and -current leading up to all that, so the bugs that these users are going to find have already been found and fixed. Here, for example, we have been shipping various flavours of 2.2 on systems for the best part of 12 months. In that period, all of the problems we have encountered have been fixed; I did my damndest to find anything I could complain about over the whole BETA/GAMMA cycle, but I and other people in the same position have already been appeased; it is _essential_ for users that are looking for a stable release to participate in the pre-release testing. > Jordan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[