From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:31:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24E316A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F16543D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBD0UMj7039430; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:30:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439E1614.9050305@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:30:12 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: executive@ausvision.com References: <000501c5efed$4cad7190$ac0d8b90@primary> In-Reply-To: <000501c5efed$4cad7190$ac0d8b90@primary> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Website CMS Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:31:59 -0000 executive@ausvision.com wrote: > Hi Guys - just wondered what CMS you are using for www.freebsd.org . > Think the site looks great. Cheers! > > Kindest Regards > > Nathan Wilkinson > Ausvision: Australian Digital Media Sorry if this one's too cold to reply to; I notice no replies to what seems an honest question, and if the O.P. doesn't mind, I'll try and answer it. The site doesn't use a "CMS" exactly; it's actually maintained by tiny naked elves who come out at night, read the entire WWW for news, search the CVS repo for new things to document, and all have either a CS or marketing degree from the University of California. If you'd like to make a donation, some of our more conservative users are collecting funds to buy them clothing. :D More seriously, if you know much about Unix-like systems and so-forth: much (or all?) of the site is in SGML format and is 'automagically' rebuilt nightly by "make", using custom Makefiles. The code and content are maintained by the "FreeBSD Documentation Project" (FDP) as part of the "doc tree" which is a large part of the entire FreeBSD codebase. You can reach the FDP at doc@freebsd.org; I believe that www@freebsd.org is a more specific list for all things website related. If you don't know much about such things, we'll just call it a "proprietary solution," but that is really quite a misnomer, as all the tools are free, and the code and its documentation are under a very liberal (but non-GNU*) license, as one might expect from "FreeBSD". Finally, as regards its appearance: it recently had a face lift courtesy of Emily Boyd and the Google "Summer of Code". AFAIK, this is simply the "index" page and several other key pages ... much of the site (mail archives, user documentation, etc) still looks as it always did. The user community is divided over a few issues regarding this "lift", some technical, some personal and some sentimental, but it "is what it is" .... and that's 'nuff said on that subject, lest I begin another discussion of "what color the bikeshed ought to be". Lastly, I will make mention that FreeBSD is an excellent operating system for use in almost any server and many desktop applications. Feel free to ask any questions you like about FreeBSD; perhaps it can help your organization as it's helped others like Yahoo! and New York Internet.... Kevin Kinsey FreeBSD User *There are some GNU tools in FreeBSD that use the GNU GPL, but most of FreeBSD is "BSD licensed", and has been for decades.... -- WARNING TO ALL PERSONNEL: Firings will continue until morale improves.