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Date:      Wed, 24 May 2000 21:01:01 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh sshd_config
Message-ID:  <200005250101.VAA83975@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005241518170.24095-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>
References:  <392C3E40.E0D8974D@vangelderen.org> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005241518170.24095-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>

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<<On Wed, 24 May 2000 15:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org> said:

> This is precisely the point of PAM. Someone needs to PAMerize OpenSSH so
> we don't have duplicated kerberos/opie/password authentication code in
> there

PAM is adequate for dealing with the case of user-provided
authentication information, but falls down on (and wasn't designed
for) secure network protocols.  PAM can certainly provide an
authentication services for those protocols which don't provide
user-to-service or user-to-user authentication themselves (although my
policy is to deprecate such protocols altogether), but authenticated
protocols need to be built at a different layer.  That's where
SSL/TLS, SASL, GSSAPI, and SSH (the protocol) come in.  Unfortunately,
SSH was designed as a monolithic entity and thus has to explicitly
provide for every authentication mechanism in the protocol, whereas
SASL, GSSAPI, and TELNET authentication were designed to be pluggable
from the start.

-GAWollman

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