From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 15 12:48:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988131065716 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (77-93-215-190.static.masterinter.net [77.93.215.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD758FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625B99CB067; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:48:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lev.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U9W2qe3ghk-q; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:48:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB219CB07F; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:48:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0FCmC9k052069; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:48:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:48:12 +0100 From: Roman Divacky To: Christoph Mallon Message-ID: <20090115124812.GA51770@freebsd.org> References: <496F0D1D.7080505@andric.com> <6c51dbb10901150344s409cd834p3cd8fae189e42a68@mail.gmail.com> <9225949D37F24E01AA5FC01169A256F2@PegaPegII> <20090115122805.GA48561@freebsd.org> <496F2FC0.3050401@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <496F2FC0.3050401@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Pegasus Mc Cleaft , FuLLBLaSTstorm , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standardcompiler?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:48:35 -0000 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 01:44:48PM +0100, Christoph Mallon wrote: > Roman Divacky schrieb: > >2) llvm uses special "bytecode" that gets compiled into native machine > >code so technically speaking "classic" assembler is not needed for > >llvm/clang. > > This is an irrelevant detail for normal use. yes.... but the point is that clang does not need "something that translates mov ax, bx to machine code" > >the chain with clang is: clang -> llvm bc -> native binary > > This is just a kludge, because clang has no proper compiler driver, yet. there's a work going on successor of ccc and ccc itself works for a lot of cases even today (I use it for compiling freebsd)