From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Mar 24 10:44:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8816B37B719 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11494; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:44:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:44:42 -0500 (EST) From: To: Richard Hodges Cc: Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel driver doc's Take 2. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Richard Hodges wrote: > For many (most?) people that may be practical. But what about > those of us with a 1RU system using fxp on the motherboard and > NEED the single PCI slot for something else? I suspect that > there are more of us than you might think. Richard, Well then I suggest you ALL start writing Intel every single day to RELEASE DOCS WITH NO NDA. Then this problem will go away. Matt had the best Idea so far. To take an NDA manual and get Intel to release the basic functinoality parts of it openly. And that is what I sent to Linda Sanchez at Intel. She said she would take it to the metting with some people. And let me know of any updates. So I am pretty much not holding my breath. I don't even use Intel HW. So I made the effort on behalf of people like dennis. Said effort has been made, life moves on. AFAIK the XL driver for 3com card's performs just as well if not better then the intel cards. And gee funny enough the new dual AMD Athlon board from Tyan will sport onboard 3Com 10/100 FE. What an amazing coincedence. You now no longer need Intel CPU's, and now you no longer need the fxp driver. You have choices. If you choose not to use them... We can't FORCE Intel to do anything. And as long as they dont want us to write open source drivers for their hardware we won't. I'm just totally baffled at Intel's stance. And as usual I am quick to get angry over such petty stupid things. Which is why I don't work in PR :-) ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message