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Date:      Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:09:53 +0100 (MET)
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>
To:        GWMANN@ccmail.monsanto.com
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions)
Subject:   Re: TCP/IP startup difficulties
Message-ID:  <199611221609.RAA01078@freebie.lemis.de>
In-Reply-To: <0030400001896995000002*@MHS> from "GWMANN@ccmail.monsanto.com" at "Nov 21, 96 12:25:23 pm"

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GWMANN@ccmail.monsanto.com writes:
>
>      Hello all.
>
>      We are converting from IPX and NETBluey to TCP/IP.  So far we have an
>      NT server running TCP/IP with one connected NT client (works fine).
>      However, we have no router, nor a DNS (we are not yet connected to the
>      net).
>
>      My FreeBSD box is P/75 32MB RAM, with 3C509 NIC at 340/IRQ 10.  On
>      boot FreeBSD finds the NIC no problem, and does not pause on the add
>      gateway or sendmail startups, "ifconfig -a" shows the following:
>
>        lp0: flags=8810(POINTTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>        ep0: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,SIMPLEX> mtu 1500
>                inet 164.144.6.80 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 164.144.6.255
>                ether 00:a0:24:25:e4:59
>        lo0: flags=8009<UP,LOOPBACK,MULTICAST> mtu 552
>        sl0: flags=c010<POINTTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
>        tun0: flags=8010<POINTOTPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>
>      while "netstat -n" gives nothing.

No output at all?  That's unusual.  You should get something like:

=== grog@freebie (/dev/ttyp6) /usr/home/grog 10 -> netstat -n
Active Internet connections
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address          Foreign Address        (state)
tcp        0      0  192.109.197.137.1060   192.109.197.134.6000   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0    272  192.109.197.137.1051   192.109.197.134.6000   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  192.109.197.137.1015   192.109.197.134.1010   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  192.109.197.137.514    192.109.197.134.1011   CLOSE_WAIT
tcp        0      0  192.109.197.137.1049   192.109.197.134.6000   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  192.109.197.137.1016   192.109.197.134.1012   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  192.109.197.137.514    192.109.197.134.1013   CLOSE_WAIT
tcp        0      0  192.109.197.137.1036   192.109.197.134.6000   ESTABLISHED
(etc)

What does netstat -rn say?

>      Another netmask I have tried is 255.255.254.0, since we'll be using
>      two class-C nets.  I can send or post sysconfig, etc. on request.

Don't worry about net masks yet.  You haven't mentioned much in the
way of problems, but net masks are a long way from the basic problem
of getting the thing to talk.  But what you seem to have are two
slices of a class B net.  Is the address correct?

>      We have a Compass Network Analyzer which I have not been able to make
>      see my FreeBSD machine.  When attempting ping, the Compass unit says
>      "Specified IP host does not response to ARP requests."  I'm bummed.

That could have many reasons.  I'd try it the other way round first:
get the analyzer to look for packets from Ethernet address
00:a0:24:25:e4:59, then start a ping to, say, address 164.144.6.255.

>      Someone said something about the NT server using DEC-encompassed
>      (Frame_II) IP packets as opposed to Frame_802.2.  Is this a potential
>      problem?

I suppose so, if it's true, but I haven't heard of people having
trouble connecting to NT before (well, not that kind of problem).

>      Since we have no DNS or router set up (we're still using IPX/NETBEUI
>      for everthing else) is this the problem? 

No, not if you use IP addresses and you're on the same wire.

>      Don't remember this kind of problems setting up FreeBSD before on a
>      Novell net.

I'd guess that you have the board set up wrong.  Wrong port, perhaps?
Check the man page for ep:

     The default port to use is the BNC. To choose an alternate port, use the
     following flag combinations with ifconfig(8) or in your /etc/hostname.ep?
     file.

     -link0                Use the BNC port (default).

      link0 -link1         Use the AUI port.

      link0  link1         Use the UTP port.

Greg



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