From owner-freebsd-current Tue Feb 25 21:22:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9037B401 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A19C43F93 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wa1ter@myrealbox.com) Received: from myrealbox.com wa1ter@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [66.126.110.181] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.31 $ on Novell NetWare via secured & encrypted transport (TLS); Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:22:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3E5C4F1B.30501@myrealbox.com> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:22:35 -0800 From: walt Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030213 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "NTLDR missing" after 5-RELEASE install References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Smith wrote: > What does your Drive Layout look like? Is your W2k partition FAT32? > Has it always been the first partition on the drive, or did you move it, > using something like partition magic? Is freeBSD in the extended > partition? > -Matt > On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 11:58, Andrew Boothman wrote: > >>Quoting Lucas Holt : >> >> >>>It probably is. You need to put in the win 2k CD and do a repair on >>>your windows install.. unfortunetely this may screw up your freebsd >>>install. >>> >>>On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 05:58 AM, Andrew Boothman wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi! >>>> >>>>I've just installed 5-RELEASE, and I asked for the FreeBSD Boot >>>>Manager to be installed on both my HDDs. >>>> >>>>When the machine boots I'm given options for : >>>> >>>>F1 - DOS >>>>F5 - Drive 2 >>>> >>>>Hitting F5 takes me to a second menu, where I can boot FreeBSD no >>>>problem. My problem is that Win2k will no longer boot.... Hitting F1 >>>>displays a message that, "NTLDR is missing". I've tried all the repair >>> >>>>options on the Win2k setup disc to no avail I think. >>>> >>>>I'm sorry this isn't directly FreeBSD related, but I really hope my >>>>Win2k installation isn't hosed. >> >>Thanks for replying! >> >>I can't understand how the 5.x boot manager has managed to break my windows >>boot, i've never had any trouble under 3.x or 4.x, both of which played with >>windows perfectly nicely. >> >>I think i've tried all of the various repair options on the Win2k CD, including >>getting it to do a fresh installation into a different folder (c:\tempwin), but >>even that failed with the "NTLDR missing" message! However you no longer get >>the booteasy (F1.... F2) menu anymore, so Windows must have rewritten >>something. It still doesn't explain why Win2k still won't boot. My experience with the FBSD boot manager is virtually zero, so I can't address it's workings, but I use GRUB as a booter just because it gets me out of so many jams like yours -- if something isn't where you thought it was you can point GRUB at your disks and let it do the looking for you. The secret is to make a boot floppy with GRUB installed on it. Once you have that there's no machine that's unbootable, and you can reinstall GRUB in seconds if it gets overwritten by Bill & Co. For example, IIRC, I just went thru this myself (although it's all so routine now I can't even remember what I do to bail out anymore) when I installed XP on a brand new disk and then installed FBSD afterwards. I got the MBR screwed up just like you, then ran the XP install disk in "Repair" mode which got XP to boot again but overwrote the FBSD booter. So all I did was boot my trusty GRUB floppy and reinstalled GRUB on the MBR in about 60 seconds and -- done. The next evil news is that I've never really gotten FBSD's incarnation of GRUB to work right for me, so I just install in on the floppy from a linux machine and use that for the FBSD machine. If you have access to GRUB and need instructions I'd be happy to help. Just let me know. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message