From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 24 14:26:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23FF37B401 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B864D43E6A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A892A7D6; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Garrett Wollman Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who broke sort(1) ? In-Reply-To: <200209242101.g8OL1TVd090894@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:26:43 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020924212643.A4A892A7D6@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Oh man, this is going to suck. There are thousands and thousands of third > > party scripts that use +n syntax. > > > I am most unhappy with this change. :-( > > The time to complain about it was back in 1992when the old syntax was > labeled ``deprecated'' by P1003.2, or in 1999 when the revision cycle > was just heating up. Old deprecated features were automatically > dropped leading up to the 2001 revision, unless someone could make a > case for their retention. That case wasn't made in the case of > `sort', and as a result the Standard no longer permits the old syntax. > It's not like people didn't have nine years' advance warning to fix > their scripts. Closed payware standards do not count as 'fair warning'. I still have never been able to see a posix standard. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message