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Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:16:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202003201602.02KG2kKW065294@repo.freebsd.org> <20200324214552.GD1292@FreeBSD.org> <69a9072f-6592-4eb5-8e63-92255adee0d9@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <69a9072f-6592-4eb5-8e63-92255adee0d9@www.fastmail.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:16:02 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r359168 - head To: Scott Long Cc: Gleb Smirnoff , Ed Maste , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48n7vT4klqz4Zlg X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=X6D8muRG; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.04 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[obsoletefiles.inc.multi.uribl.com,gappssmtp.com.multi.uribl.com]; 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There's a lot of ancient > ObsoleteFiles.inc > > E> history that serves no purpose today; start by removing entries from > > E> 1999 and earlier. > > > > I understand that rationale is to speedup 'make delete-old' times, and > > trimming the default file definitely makes sense. However, what about > > keeping the full ObsoleteFiles.inc version, at least for documenting > > purposes? > > > > This is what SCM history is for, IMHO. The historical entries serve little > purpose outside of that. > We only support upgrading so far into the past. Farther than we can build, sure, but it's still limited. If you have systems older than that, or that haven't been preened, you can get the the last release's tree and do a cleaning. There's no more reason to retain this stuff than there is to retain ancient version compat code in drivers, etc. So while it seems like a good idea to have this back to dirt, in reality it would get little use and the data can be found easily enough now, and in the future. That's why I advised Ed to just delete the entries > 20 years old... Warner