From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jul 12 20:45:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from freedom.cybertouch.org (freedom.cybertouch.org [216.183.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A109B14F06 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@cybertouch.org) Received: from wired (wired.cybertouch.org [216.183.2.3]) by freedom.cybertouch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA93504; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907130343.XAA93504@freedom.cybertouch.org> From: "Lanny Baron" To: Sue Blake , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:44:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification...again Reply-To: lnb@cybertouch.org In-reply-to: <19990713083222.24542@welearn.com.au> References: ; from Lanny Baron on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 06:01:46PM -0400 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > And who will pay for this to be developed? > > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- When you say who is going to pay for it, I don't know what you mean exactly. Sue, you know lots of people like Greg Lehey for example, that can work with other (someone told me the name Mike Mcusak sorry if its misspelled) very knowledgeable people that can make course ware that would have to be purchased by either individuals or tech schools. I know of one school here in Toronto that is very well known, and who is starting to offer linux certs. I asked them about FreeBSD but they have never heard of it. Going back to your question. If you start off at a certain level..and I am no expert at this. But, say you, a trainer says, a minium FreeBSD certification for networking would entail, installing FreeBSD (meaning you must also have some knowledge of hardware), security to be implemented, dns setup, user/group and permission knowledge. Lets say just for argument that what I have just mentioned is enough for "level 1" entry. You would need some people to make up tests and maybe even to demonstrate it in a lab (say in a training school). FreeBSD has ties with CDROM.com so something might be workable there. You (the student) need books and the cd (made presumably by cdrom.com). I know I am over simplifying it. But I feel that it not only could be done, but should be done. Most parts of any "course" that FreeBSD could offer are already written. It's a matter of binding what a group of people could decide on, what knowledge is needed for what level. Then when that is complete, banging on doors of these training schools might well prove worth it. I will call tomorrow, but a legit training school in toronto ( i think they are in the states too... its called learnix..maybe.. here it is http://www.learnix.com) offer Sun. HP-UX Microsoft and Oracle. The cost I have written here in Canadian $'s for Sun cert (assuming you pass the tests) is $8,900 and that does NOT include the cost of the tests. They (learnix) seem to be growing. More and more companies are sending their staff for training. I am not going there only because they don't offer job help and the school i will go to is more geared for those going from another industry to the IT industry. So when you say "who is going to pay for it" I guess ultimately the student will. In as far as the FreeBSD Project is concerned. If this could be brought to life, and had success, would they (the owners, investors and maybe those that develop a really good course) not get back more than they put in? If I had the technical knowledge and know-how, I would love to participate in something like this. But then thats only my opinion. Regards, Lanny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message