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Date:      21 Sep 1999 11:12:03 +0200
From:      Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, jcarlos@bahianet.com.br, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG, hitech@bahianet.com.br
Subject:   Re: Out of mbuf clusters
Message-ID:  <xzpvh94pr18.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
In-Reply-To: Wes Peters's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:45:16 -0600"
References:  <199909201247.OAA08309@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> 	 <v0420551fb40c1bf1992f@[195.238.1.121]> 	 <37E6A807.7E07D48A@softweyr.com> <v04205501b40c5bd009bf@[195.238.25.190]> <37E6E32C.D6CC67C6@softweyr.com>

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Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> writes:
> Brad Knowles wrote:
> >         I disagree.  I read what he wrote, and while those might be the
> > necessary steps to run the world's largest IRC server, or the world's
> > most secure, I think we can all agree that not everyone in the world
> > needs to be a Superman in order to have an IRC server that doesn't
> > spontaneously crash.
> Right up until somebody launches a clone attack against you, which results
> in your server rolling over and dying one way or another.

Actually, clone attacks aren't very common because they're easy to
foil (by setting up sufficiently restrictive connection classes).
Floodinf, smurfing and SYN attacks are much more common. As has been
pointed out on -security, FreeBSD may panic when subjected to a heavy
SYN flood.

> I wasn't referring to DES's reply, which was really quite mild for him.

Hmpfs.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no


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