From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Dec 6 23:36:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4993CE90527 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:f740:c::4ae]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36B796874C; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:1c2:1402:1770:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB12238F45; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:fe80::dd2a:ba9e:2d4a:7c5f] (unknown [IPv6:fe80::dd2a:ba9e:2d4a:7c5f]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38ED0FD4; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:36:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless) To: Mathieu Arnold , Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Ports ML References: <7a9a2753-6460-a2bf-5156-5eab92a0b2f8@FreeBSD.org> From: Mel Pilgrim Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:36:35 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7a9a2753-6460-a2bf-5156-5eab92a0b2f8@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 23:36:38 -0000 On 12/5/2017 2:09 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : >> TL;DR; >> Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how >> to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers > > > Thank you for supporting all the hard work and countless hours that so > many volunteers put in making the ports tree better. > > It really helps motivate all of us continue bringing the ports tree > forward when we get emails with so much joy and positive attitude. FWIW, I've been chomping at the bit to try out flavours. As for those complaining about, it's a remarkably small number of very loud people, but that's how it always is. I can say that I do get a laugh out them say poudriere is too much work, then insist on building everything from scratch or even bailing FreeBSD for LFS or Gentoo... ;)