From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 13:58:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCD01065673 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6988FC1A for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21so1765643gwj.13 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 05:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.110.169 with SMTP id u29mr4649058yhg.99.1297605488965; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 05:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g2sm851011yhc.28.2011.02.13.05.58.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Feb 2011 05:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E1A6E54833 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110213085805.72f0132d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110213131051.00001ebf@unknown> References: <4D550415.8060105@ifdnrg.com> <20110211185738.GB45708@guilt.hydra> <4D56799D.13036.2335C99A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <20110213073814.GC57674@guilt.hydra> <20110213092353.GA58281@guilt.hydra> <20110213073801.65518b9c@scorpio> <20110213131051.00001ebf@unknown> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD and SSD drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:58:15 -0000 On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +0000 Bruce Cran articulated: > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500 > Jerry wrote: > > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community > > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor > > clone of Office 97. The newly released "libreoffice" might be usable > > someday; however, it is now only in its infancy. There is no way it > > can be compared to a full blown MS Office 10 suite. > > For some, Office is unusable due to the new Ribbon interface and > libreoffice is the usable office suite due to its familiar menus. New, as in four years old? That is one of the worst straw man arguments I have heard in a while. In any case, In 2008 OpenOffice.org started the project Renaissance to improve the user interface of OpenOffice. So far the prototypes of the project are frequently seen as similar to the ribbon interface. Obviously, the use and customization of any software is a personal experience. However, if the use of the "ribbon" is beyond your abilities, and I am assuming that you are aware that the "ribbon" can be hidden, modified and that there are many "add-ons" available that can be used to manage it, then so be it. I would rather work with an application with a minor annoyance, and I do not find the "ribbon" to be one, then to use a less robust application. Again, it is up to the end user to ascertain their requirements and find the tool that is best fitted to that job. In any case, I am quite confident that your condemnation of the "ribbon" is totally based on your reading of Slashdot and other similar documents and not from any personal experience. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Knights are hardly worth it. I mean, all that shell and so little meat...