From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Mar 2 03:47:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27392 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050ndd.san.rr.com (root@dt050ndd.san.rr.com [204.210.31.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA27385 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:47:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (dougdougdougdoug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050ndd.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA11690; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:47:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <34FA9C54.777800CE@san.rr.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 03:47:32 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE-0228 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Annelise Anderson CC: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbies mailing list References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Annelise Anderson wrote: [lots of snippage] > A newbies mailing list might be a good idea--the question that > arises is who's going to staff it? It seems Sue has sort of been > drafted....I think it will be a fairly demanding project. Projects like this tend to go better with a group of people to share the load. I'd be more comfortable with a small set of individuals handling leadership for the new list personally. That way people who aren't comfortable with a particular strong personality in a leadership role will feel more comfortable about participating. > Here are a few points I would make: > > 1) It would be interesting to know what difficulties > people run into with the current methods of documentation/help. For my money you can't emphasize this point highly enough. > 2) FreeBSD-questions has a rather remarkable group of > people answering questions. > 3) There's also the newsgroup--Joerg Wunsch and others. Agreed. > 4) Finally, there's irc. On what I think is called EFNet That's the largest IRC network, and one of the more chaotic ones. > there's #unixhelp, which is exactly where a lot of newbies need to be-- > quite a few of their problems are problems with basic unix skills. (The > #freebsd channel rarely has anything to do with FreeBSD or unix and is > pretty useless; There is a fair deal of kibitzing going on in there, but I've found the folks in efnet #freebsd to be knowledgable and helpful to those willing to help themselves. > IRC is of course always > problematic, but when it works, it works very well indeed.) Well, I like to think so. :) There is a #freebsd channel on dalnet that is usually staffed and has a good crew of friendly people. If anyone is interested in starting a new channel for freebsd newbies or some such, dalnet has a lot of advantages including channel and nickname services that provide stability and continuity sometimes lacking in other networks. Then again, I'm prejudiced. :) I'd be happy to offer assistance to anyone interested in a project like this. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message