From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 26 17:31:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102AD16A417; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C609B13C465; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l7QHUBHq087344; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:30:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20070826.113017.-126689373.imp@bsdimp.com> To: deischen@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <20070826073535.GD21352@comp.chem.msu.su> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:30:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: yar@comp.chem.msu.su, kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Symbol versioning conventions X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:31:44 -0000 In message: Daniel Eischen writes: : On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Yar Tikhiy wrote: : > : > But, anyway, there are at least three people in the project who : > misundertood the intended role of symbol versioning. Besides yours : > truly, a humble developer, there are a core team member and a release : > engineer among them. This may be a sign that some decisions regarding : > symbol versioning, which is a rather central feature for developers : > and code contributors, haven't had enough exposure. Perhaps we've : > just missed some important discussions on the lists, but symbol : > versioning is a long-term feature and as such it deserves a document : > describing in detail how to use it in our project. : : I've think I've stated in replies to commit mail that symbol versioning : isn't meant as a crutch to aid -current developers, but that is neither : written down or documented and was probably over a year ago. You never answered my point: The release engineer gets to decide when the ABI is frozen. Maybe it already is and this use isn't a crutch. Warner