From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 21 00:59:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958C6519; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 468B52DB0; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jre-mbp.elischer.org (ppp121-45-246-96.lns20.per2.internode.on.net [121.45.246.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9L0wvOK085168 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:58:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <52647C4C.8010706@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:58:52 +0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske Subject: Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs) References: <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> <20131008.170444.74714516.sthaug@nethelp.no> <52542BD4.5070706@FreeBSD.org> <52542E1D.9000000@mu.org> <52555D1C.8010407@freebsd.org> <52558577.5020401@allanjude.com> <52558779.2070203@pcbsd.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC4B2A3@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> <5256D08F.5060101@freebsd.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC50D64@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> <5256D8E9.10200@freebsd.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC7ADA3@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC7ADA3@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Current , "Teske, Devin" , Kris Moore X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:59:09 -0000 Kris. exactly what features need to be added to the boot process to allow what you want to do, but without using grub? On 10/19/13 3:39 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> On 10/11/13 12:39 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/10/13 1:05 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >>>>> I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) >>>>> >>>>> Both problems can be solved. >>>>> The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. >>>>> We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decade?) >>>>> >>>>> I can put that in, whenever. Probably at the same time as implementing >>>>> the live/dynamic BE menus for selecting the root device. >>>> yeah it always pisses me of when the menu comes up after the kernel is loaded because 99% of the time, I'm in the menu because I want to boot a DIFFERENT kernel.. >>>> >>> Same thought I had about 7 years ago. After hearing that others >>> (especially you, Julian) think the same thoughts... >>> >>> I'm happily ready to merge a patch from VICOR to achieve this. >> PLEASE!.. put it up for review somewhere... >> > Done... > > http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/forth_zfs/ > > All new code. Had to make it programmable: > > http://twitpic.com/dhv2b6 > > See that the patch adds documentation for loader.conf(5). > It also clarifies a horrible description of "start" versus "initialize" in loader.4th(8). > > >> I wonder if we can we get a reviewboard instance for the project some time? >> > Do let me know what you think. I went all-out on this one.