From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 27 21:22:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E875C106566C for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FA78FC22 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21178 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2009 21:22:23 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Oct 2009 21:22:23 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 39E4F508A7; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:22:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <878wew7i7p.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091027202035.GA92828@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <200910271844.18697.gnemmi@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:22:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200910271844.18697.gnemmi@gmail.com> (Gonzalo Nemmi's message of "Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:44:18 -0200") Message-ID: <44fx94zg4x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:22:24 -0000 I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat... Gonzalo Nemmi writes: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I can imagine that a lot of people do use sendmail - it's documented >> in the handbook for starters. If it was taken out and replaced with >> another MTA then there would be complaints that sendmail has been >> taken out or "replacement MTA" is the "wrong one". > > Well .. someday UFS will be replaced by ZFS .. Maybe. That's still quite a way out, and who knows what else will come along in the meantime? > .. and one day Perl just > dissapeard from base .. yet the worl kept turning, and even better .. > no one got hurt ;) I remember quite a bit of pain. It was worth it, because maintaining perl in the base was causing pain on an ongoing basis, but it was a problem for users in a number of different ways. > in the other hand, those not complaining, will probably be really > happy .. so ... So you keep saying, but I don't think there's any solid evidence. Your experience is one thing, but although I consider myself a postfix user, I have machines that run sendmail because it just worked for their purpose with no configuration at all. > Doesn't ZFS mean that you have to reconfigure (or even reinstall) your > system? No. Your old configuration works just fine if you still want to keep using it. You won't get the advantages of ZFS, but having it in FreeBSD didn't bre -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/