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Date:      Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:58:52 -0500
From:      Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net>
To:        Omachonu Ogali <oogali@intranova.net>
Cc:        Lanny Baron <lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: the talk about fbsd in linux and free cd's
Message-ID:  <38B884DC.2E3D3C95@confusion.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002261005540.23544-100000@hydrant.intranova.net>

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umm maybe I'm out on a limb here, but there is a FreeBSD Inc, which I
thought to be the "project" as you put it.  FreeBSD Inc isn't a not for
profit, but the question is whether or not it's the project.

Omachonu Ogali wrote:
> 
> Walnut Creek is a for profit company, FreeBSD is a project, not a company.
> Walnut Creek merely sells FreeBSD on CD-ROM, FreeBSD does not sell
> FreeBSD.
> 
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Lanny Baron wrote:
> 
> > Sorry dude, you are wrong. If in doubt ask jkh.
> >
> > later,
> > Lanny
> > On 25-Feb-00 Omachonu Ogali wrote:
> > > FreeBSD is a project not a company, and I didn't ask for your company or
> > > what they do what FreeBSD. Whatever services you provide with/for FreeBSD
> > > is fine, but FreeBSD itself is non-profit.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Lanny Baron wrote:
> > >
> > >> Did you know they are a for profit company?
> > >>
> > >> Lanny Baron
> > >>
> > >> http://freebsdsystems.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 25-Feb-00 Omachonu Ogali wrote:
> > >> > Do you understand the definition of a non-profit organization?
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Lanny Baron wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I must be really stupid. Who in the corporate world cares if FreeBSD is
> > >> >> mentioned in a linux mag or article. As a business person, I look in
> > >> >> trade
> > >> >> magazines and some computer magazines/papers. I will tell you this. In
> > >> >> this months Computer paper (Toronto edition) a 1/4 or just slightly
> > >> >> larger
> > >> >> add from the University of Toronto, showing 4 versions of Linux at the
> > >> >> Bookstore at U of T. That IS what gets people buying.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Now Jordan, you told the guy in mail here he should go ahead and get free
> > >> >> FreeBSD cd's made. Has anyone seen that Microsoft MAKES money? Not by
> > >> >> giving away cdroms for sure. It makes my blood boil to see this nonsense.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jordan, and anyone here connected with The FreeBSD Project, I only want
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> see the organization succeed in all aspects. But the marketing in my eyes
> > >> >> is not good. Sorry for the criticism but that is how I see it. Jordan you
> > >> >> know what I am up too. And please dont spread it, but I will tell you the
> > >> >> marketing budget for 3 years is at well over 2 million dollars.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I hope you dont burn free freebsd cdroms. It looks cheap, and people that
> > >> >> WANT quality expect it to cost. In their logical minds, it works
> > >> >> something
> > >> >> like this. Well, lets see, the system the company sells out performs
> > >> >> others like NT and Novell and can keep pace with IBM AS 400's. Hmm..and
> > >> >> its free...nah how good can it be? Ahh..they will be out of business and
> > >> >> then we're stuck.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Red Hat here costs at least $60.00 NT costs about 12 or 13 hundred. I
> > >> >> wonder who IS making money. I know who is NOT.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Lanny Baron
> > >> >>
> > >> >> http://ca.samba.org/samba/samba.html  <--- official Canadian mirror
> > >> >> http://cybertouch.org <--- my sentimental ISP (which i dont advertise)
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
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> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > --
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> > >> >| Omachonu Ogali                                     oogali@intranova.net |
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> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Lanny Baron
> > >> ----------------------------------
> > >> Date: 25-Feb-00
> > >> Time: 17:11:31
> > >>
> > >> Rule of Creative Research:
> > >>      (1) Never draw what you can copy.
> > >>      (2) Never copy what you can trace.
> > >>      (3) Never trace what you can cut out and paste down.
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > >| Omachonu Ogali                                     oogali@intranova.net |
> > >| Intranova Networking Group                 http://tribune.intranova.net |
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> > >
> >
> > Lanny Baron
> > ----------------------------------
> > Date: 26-Feb-00
> > Time: 03:52:31
> >
> > All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.
> >               -- Sean O'Casey
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> 
> --
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> | Omachonu Ogali                                     oogali@intranova.net |
> | Intranova Networking Group                 http://tribune.intranova.net |
> | PGP Key ID:                                                  0xBFE60839 |
> | PGP Fingerprint:       C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1  E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 |
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