From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:06:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23E516A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (corb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F443D67 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from veldy.net (fuggle.veldy.net [209.98.200.33]) by corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4066584AE; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:05:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AF41CC65; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:05:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from veldy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fuggle.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00141-08; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:05:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from 148L241 (localhost.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 078731CC61; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:05:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001d01c3e500$2e393e50$2637630a@nic.target.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Marina Brown" , "Stanislav Grozev" , References: <20040127053642.GA10191@octavo.daemonz.org> <04012702040502.00743@tamiru> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:05:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at veldy.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD constantly crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:06:58 -0000 > The answer seems to be in your dmesg. > > pid 28555 (qmailadmin), uid 89: exited on signal 11 > > ...that means you have bad ram in your new computer. It's common > for computer stores to sell ram that is less than perfect. Replace the > ram and you should be fine. > > Marina Brown > > That is not the only reason for a signal 11 (or signal 10), just the most quoted. These can also be caused by over-optimized binaries. I often see signal 11s on all my FreeBSD machines when I optimize binaries (just with the system compiler and -O -march=pentium4). However, I NEVER see them under Linux and all tests show normal for the hardware. Simply put, I think this is an overused stock answer to blame the hardware ... no offense to the last poster intended. Tom Veldhouse